BOYAR SCHULTZ 2A618 Hydraulic Leak Question - Practical Machinist - Largest Manufacturing Technology Forum on the Web

efleming · #1 (**permalink**) 11-11-2009, 03:58 PM

Hello Folks,

I am new to this forum. I've been a contributing member of may other forums (mainly knife making related) and have found the information exchange very valuable. With that said, I've subscribed to this forum to expand my knowledge regarding surface grinders. I am looking to buy one in order to surface grind Damascus billets that I make out of high carbon steel.

I have the opportunity of purchase a local BOYAR SCHULTZ 2A618 for $1500. I've tested it out and seems to work well with the exception of a hydraulic leak coming from the valve block contining cross feed and speed controls. Has anyone here had experience in fixing such a leak? The manual says this must be serviced by the factory. Any insight or advice here would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Eric Fleming

SlicerMan · #2 (**permalink**) 11-12-2009, 12:02 PM

Welcome.
I don't have any specificexperience with that machine but I do own a Boyar Schultz 1 axis hydraulic. I don't see any brand name markings on the valve which leads me to believe it is not an "off the shelf" part. My observations of many other surface grinders are the same. If it can be repaired by just o-ring replacement or something you'dbe ok but Boyar is nolonger in business so you might be in for a time consuming modification if the valve is badly trashed.
I would look around. I see heavier grinders for sale for the same money quite often.
If you are grinding billets for knives I supect you will need to hog off alot of material.
A Boyar 618 is on the light side for that.
SanDiego is a big place.
Shop around.

SM

efleming · #3 (**permalink**) 11-12-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicerMan

I would look around. I see heavier grinders for sale for the same money quite often.
If you are grinding billets for knives I supect you will need to hog off alot of material.
A Boyar 618 is on the light side for that.
SanDiego is a big place.
Shop around.

SM

Hello SM,

I really appreciate the reply. What brand name/model of surface grinders would you recommend that are not on the "light side" for what I am trying to do? Any suggestions you can give me would greatly help out my search. I am trying to stay in the price range I mentioned above. Thank you for your patients with a surface grinder newbie!

Eric

SlicerMan · #4 (**permalink**) 11-12-2009, 08:39 PM

The bigger DoAlls, Thompson....Uhm (scratching head)...Google some machine Dealers and check their inventory. My experience is with the lighter machines like Harig and Boyar...so I know their limitations. How much material do you need to remove ? Just squaring up a forged piece ? Come to think of it a small Blanchard might be good but lots more money. Sometimes the smaller grinders (Harig comes to mind) go for ridiculous high money because they are easier for home shop people to move.

SM

efleming · #5 (**permalink**) 11-12-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SlicerMan

How much material do you need to remove ? Just squaring up a forged piece ?
SM

Don't have to remove a lot. Just need to square up the forged piece...

Eric

OldCarGuy · #6 (**permalink**) 11-14-2009, 06:25 AM

I have a manual Boyar Schultz 618 and a two axis 2A818 in my garage workshop. Thought they may not be considered as heavy duty machines. They have a good feel, are accurate, and get the job done. Never had any hydraulic issues with my 2A818. But did have to replace a relay once.

Having a leak, I wouldn't be so fast to pay the full asking price though.