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    Default 32" Gould & Eberhardt Shaper Weight

    Can anyone tell me what the actual catalog listed weight of a G&E 32" shaper is? Online searching is giving estimates of 8,500 lbs but I'd love to know for sure if possible.
    Different class of forklifts available for lifting depending on what the machine is.

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    I have one of the lighter 36" Ohio plain shapers - 8700 Lbs - from 1951

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    Recall 8000lbs. +/- depending on generation.

    If you're thinking that long a stroke, why not a small planer? One of the smaller Rockford's are roughly the same floor space. From what I've seen, rams and the way for them tend to wear quickly on really big shapers.

    (But maybe you have a line on a great condition shaper nearly free?)

    Lucky7

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky7 View Post
    Recall 8000lbs. +/- depending on generation.

    If you're thinking that long a stroke, why not a small planer? One of the smaller Rockford's are roughly the same floor space. From what I've seen, rams and the way for them tend to wear quickly on really big shapers.

    (But maybe you have a line on a great condition shaper nearly free?)

    Lucky7
    They wear quickly on small ones, too. Shapers are seldom "accurate". The ram moves up and down with the crank and the bull gear is noisy. A planer is a much better proposal and absent that, a side shaper can produce decent work.

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    AlexO : What is a side shaper?

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    From the Mitts & Merrill G&E Heavy Duty 32" cut sheet.

    Box Table Only
    7455 Net / 7755 Skid Weight

    Universal Table Only
    7880 Net / 8180 Skid Weight

    Weights include factory 10 HP 1800 RPM motor and electronics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohio Mike View Post
    From the Mitts & Merrill G&E Heavy Duty 32" cut sheet.

    Box Table Only
    7455 Net / 7755 Skid Weight

    Universal Table Only
    7880 Net / 8180 Skid Weight

    Weights include factory 10 HP 1800 RPM motor and electronics.
    Thank you! That's all I was asking for.

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    Danged, he IS still alive! Howdy Abom!

    Side shaper is a Rockford open side planer.

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    Abom,
    Have you found a 32 in. G&E? What year if known.
    Please post some photos if possible.
    I have a 1956 24 in. G&E universal (10 hp) and it is a chunk of iron, but fun to run.
    I have enjoyed your videos of your 16 in. shaper working.

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    Here's Abom's new video, he shows off some stills of the G&E shaper.

    SNS 185: Shop Updates, Shaper Moving, New T Shirts, Tapered Bore Coupling - YouTube

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    Looks like a pristine machine, even has the auto downfeed

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMFKT205SA View Post
    Abom,
    Have you found a 32 in. G&E? What year if known.
    Please post some photos if possible.
    I have a 1956 24 in. G&E universal (10 hp) and it is a chunk of iron, but fun to run.
    I have enjoyed your videos of your 16 in. shaper working.
    I'm unsure of year built. I know nothing about these machines and will have to do some digging. I have a few sources of info though. I believe its of the later vintage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeltor View Post
    Looks like a pristine machine, even has the auto downfeed

    Mike
    That's what I was thinking is that is an auto downfeed located on the end of the ram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike C. View Post
    Danged, he IS still alive! Howdy Abom!

    Side shaper is a Rockford open side planer.
    How you been Mike? Still working at the hydraulic shop?

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    Here are the only pictures I have of the shaper so far. I will have plenty more this coming weekend. I had quite a few guys step up and volunteer to help Kevin get the shaper moved out of the shop and into the loading area. image1.jpgimage2.jpgimage3.jpgimage4.jpgimage5.jpg

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    Like it. Power toolhead down feed is nice. As is a mechanical clutch. Not a fan of my G+E's electric clutch. Unless the photographer is 7feet tall the proportions look smaller than a 32". Unless you have a measurement or there's something on the machine saying 32" that I don't see on the photos, I suspect it's a 24". Does this machine have the later chrome ways on the ram? Congrats on a good find!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky7 View Post
    Like it. Power toolhead down feed is nice. As is a mechanical clutch. Not a fan of my G+E's electric clutch. Unless the photographer is 7feet tall the proportions look smaller than a 32". Unless you have a measurement or there's something on the machine saying 32" that I don't see on the photos, I suspect it's a 24". Does this machine have the later chrome ways on the ram? Congrats on a good find!

    Regards,
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    Check Tool Speed Tag.

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    Can't read it with my crappy moniter. Thanks for correcting me. Even more congrats as a 32" is rare. That also means the vise is the larger version G&E made. I can't lift my smaller G&E vise- hope you have lifting gear or a stronger back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James H Clark View Post
    AlexO : What is a side shaper?

    JH
    It's a shaper where the table is on one side. The rest is more or less similar as functionality is concerned. That does away with the drop of the ram - they're very accurate and some are quite large - can stroke 1-2m. There is a German one quite popular but for the life of me I can't find a pic or remember it's name. Sorry...
    One BIG advantage with those is that the part being shaped does not move.

    Here !!! I remembered - it's called a Gack

    The Ludwig Gack Universal Shaping Machine

    DO NOT blame me if you develop a serious need to get one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucky7 View Post
    Can't read it with my crappy moniter. Thanks for correcting me. Even more congrats as a 32" is rare. That also means the vise is the larger version G&E made. I can't lift my smaller G&E vise- hope you have lifting gear or a stronger back!

    Regards,
    Lucky7
    Second picture shows the size casted in the side of the machine, it's hard to read but there at the top shadow line. Don't know why the pictures uploaded to small.


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