Another Orphan Lathe Followed me home...

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cekann23

Plastic

Joined

Nov 4, 2017

Location

Starview, PA

• Nov 19, 2017

• #1

Well Guys - Another orphan, violated Lathe followed me home.
The throw over the ways is 14 inches. It has a gap in the bed where it is maybe 20 inches. It's about 40 inches from the faceplate to where the center would sit in the tailstock.
Of course there is no markings that I've found. No nameplate or cast letters.
The legs were gone when I got it. It has a compound banjo for the change gears - but no gears. It has a belt drive for the feed. No back gear. It's in pretty bad shape.
Does anyone have any idea as to the maker and how old it is?

 

JST

Diamond

Joined

Jun 16, 2001

Location

St Louis

• Nov 19, 2017

• #2

Looks British.

Crank position, and the gap lead me that direction, British makers really liked gap bed machines.

 

enginebill

Stainless

Joined

Feb 17, 2005

Location

Plymouth Meeting PA

• Nov 19, 2017

• #3

I agree with JST.

 

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TedinNorfolk

Stainless

Joined

Oct 17, 2006

Location

Norfolk, UK

• Nov 20, 2017

• #4

Violated by the leg thieves,not quite as bad over here. Like a Brit machine in as much as it has a gap,and the saddle wheel is on the right but that's it. Ours of that period were flat bed. The 4 v,s are not Brit at all nor the general style.Could be Sebastian.

 

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Peter S

Diamond

Joined

May 6, 2002

Location

Auckland, New Zealand

• Nov 20, 2017

• #5

Stating the obvious I guess, but the crank is on the RH side because of the gap, not because of the country it was built?

 

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cutting oil Mac

Stainless

Joined

Jan 6, 2007

Location

scotland united kingdom

• Nov 20, 2017

• #6

"Another orphan lathe followed me home" Guys such kindness and charity is is too too kind! It seems to be a univrsal trait even with guys like us over here My orphanage is bursting at the seams

 

JST

Diamond

Joined

Jun 16, 2001

Location

St Louis

• Nov 20, 2017

• #7

Peter S said:

Stating the obvious I guess, but the crank is on the RH side because of the gap, not because of the country it was built?

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Could be... but not all are. I really do not see many US machines with the crank on that side. Really old (1920s) Colchester Bantams have a gap with the crank on the left, and 3 V-ways, so.......... no absolutes.

 

Robert Lang

Stainless

Joined

Apr 3, 2007

Location

Minneapolis, MN

• Nov 20, 2017

• #8

It is American. It is Sebastian of Cincinnati as noted by TedinNorfolk. It does not look like it is British at all.
All early American gap bed lathes I have seen, have the hand wheel/crank on the right side.

There were American makers who had the hand wheel/crank on the right side even though they were not gap bed lathes.
Here is a Fitchburg and Putnam and Bement.

Rob

 

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JST

Diamond

Joined

Jun 16, 2001

Location

St Louis

• Nov 20, 2017

• #9

Yeah, Sebastian seems to have put the crank on the right for gap bed, and on the left for same machine without. Mix that with UK makers using 3 V ways, and a crank on the left plus gap, and the supposed "national characteristics" go out the window.....

That looks a bit like a fancier version of the "utility" shown at the UK site, which appears to have 4 V ways also. (look at headstock closeup pic, 3rd down)

http://www.lathes.co.uk/sebastian/index.html

 

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garyphansen

Titanium

Joined

Feb 9, 2004

Location

Traverse City, MI

• Nov 21, 2017

• #10

Are the spindle threads five threads per inch? If so my bet would be a LeBlond. the tail stock and part of the apron looks like my 1909 LeBlond.

 

Robert Lang

Stainless

Joined

Apr 3, 2007

Location

Minneapolis, MN

• Nov 21, 2017

• #11

As I have said before, it is a Sebastian.
Cope's lathe book, page 156, fig.5.

Rob