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    are these pictures any help? they were on my phonr
    Yes, you hook up main power to L1, L2 and L3 - at least in this section of the system

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    where actually is l1 l2 and l3. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya72 View Post
    where actually is l1 l2 and l3. thanks.
    You can maybe see that info molded into the bakelite/plastic whatever, right?

    Its referring to the terminals above that
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    thanks for everyone's help. my steam guy sorted me out. it sure is easier to communicate by phone. im young but old fashioned i guess.
    power goes into the three terminal screws above the start switch. imagine that. he says he doesnt like the look og the connections and that they should be cleaned. thanks everyone

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    hi guys iam hoping to lean on you again. here are some pictures of the front of the mill and i was hoping someone could point out the fast travel lever. not sure which one it is
    my mill experience is with a home built one i made from a firth hardometer.
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    Let's see a photo of right end of table and the hand wheel there. Early ones had only rapid via internal gear and pinion and only on table

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    the table is still offl but i did remove a small gear. i dont think its from the dividing head but npt sure
    is a 1943 machine likely to have rapid traverse on the end of the table?


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    The motor likely can be set up for 220 or 440-so you need to confirm that it is wired for the voltage you will be running. Same with any motor on the mill.
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    thanks for the input joe. the motor tag shows wiring diagrams for both so iam going to go through it and have an electrician friend comr over and go over it with me. thanks to everyone for their time and input. its becoming clearer

    if i can lean on you guys again? i want a vertical head attachment and wondering what my options are. is there something i can adapt? any advice is welcomed.
    cheers
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    is a 1943 machine likely to have rapid traverse on the end of the table?
    Yours is plainly older than the '43 manual, which shows both feed selection dial AND power fast travel lever situated on front of knee. Your photos show you have neither of these features on front of knee

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    according to some posts on this forum serial number 6983(mine) falls into late 1942 or 1943.
    Bob spaeth informed me i do not have a fast travel. that would explain why i cant find it. his machine clearly shows it.
    thanks for replying. i need all the help i can get without a manual.

    btw, what is the usual practise without a fast travel?

    hand crank, change directional feed pr increase the feed rate and change direction

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    Hello,
    Your machine is definatly a little older. They added a feed motor during WWII to these machines so that is the signal. I have one, and I looked at the Yahoo Groups Brown and Sharpe and figured it was mid war.
    Mine has high speed traverse in all directions. Make sure all of your oil pumps work and line are clear. The ways under the table have delicate tubes, make sure these are not broken.
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    thanks for the response. i am choked there is no fast travel but am very happy this machine is in my shop.
    i looked for the table motor and didnt see it. i guess i didnt want to accept the truth(haha)
    working on the electrical now.
    hoping to have this running in a month.
    any advice on acquiring or adapting a vertical head?

    best regards
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    For a vertical head, I'd look for a Bridgeport J or 2J or clone, and adapt to the overarms. I have seen this done more than once. B'port used to sell adapters, but I highly doubt it nowadays from Hardinge. I also saw an adapter hogged from solid aluminum down at Redstone Arsenal.

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    Thanks. I have been looking are the j heads. My preference sure would be to tie the vertical head to the spindle taper though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya72 View Post
    My preference sure would be to tie the vertical head to the spindle taper though.
    Can you clarify? Do you mean you want the vertical and horizontal spindles to have the same taper, or to actually connect a J-head to the horizontal's spindle. The latter seems an odd thing to do.

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    Here's my rendition of an adapter to hold the shaper head on my Light #2univ.. Serial# is 6572. Was told? that it's from '38.
    poke the pic for more

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    No i want the vertical headattachment

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattya72 View Post
    No i want the vertical headattachment

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    Simply showing how things can be adapted.

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    Matt,
    Brown & Sharpe made a vertical head that fits your machine
    and drives with the #40 spindle taper. They work well and
    can set at angles in both directions. However they do not
    have a quill. So any drilling would have to be done by moving
    the table up or down. Or simply putting the drill chuck in
    the spindle and moving the table in or out. A bit unhandy
    until you get used to it. Not so good for small holes. That
    would be the advantage to using a Bridgeport type head adapted
    to the overarms to use the machine like a vertical mill/drill.
    The B&S heads usually go for 500.00 or more and then you'll
    want the mounting arm to put it on/off. They are pretty heavy.
    Once you get it up and running you will find ways to do most jobs.
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