Lodge and Shipley 24"

pressbrake1 · Sep 14, 2017

Just rescued this old lady from the big pot.
Never seen a L's in the UK other than the big t60's
Not seen it in the flesh but I had to act quick. Anyhow how useful are these old lady's as I assume high end old gear can still get the metal off just like my late thirties lang that makes my Concorde and mastiff look like toys and a bit feeble!

pressbrake1 · Sep 14, 2017

A picture of it in situ

pressbrake1 · Sep 14, 2017

pressbrake1 · Sep 14, 2017

johnoder · Sep 14, 2017

Selective head from 1916 - 1927

Scan thanks to Mike C.

I own the 14 ft over all bed version from 1917

About 9500 Lbs there

As can be plainly seen, L&S was already standardized on "raised swing" - since it does 27 1/2"

pressbrake1 · Sep 14, 2017

Thanks john, scan is very interesting.
What's yours like to use, I save old stuff for the pleasure but its nice when I can do some paying work on them which appeases the good lady and justifies my machine lust

johnoder · Sep 14, 2017

pressbrake1 said:
Thanks john, scan is very interesting.
What's yours like to use, I save old stuff for the pleasure but its nice when I can do some paying work on them which appeases the good lady and justifies my machine lust

I made $850 once in ten hours - with apron off no less, but it does not ever really have to do that. It involves itself in assisting with fixing my other machines, none of which have to earn a living. I last made a living twisting handles in 1972. Just retirement fun now. Its about pleasing me, no one else.

As to how is it, it is slow and growley and carbide is not to its liking. A hefty chunk of HSS with a nice hook solidly installed in the Aloris DA makes all the big chips I can handle. Its from the days when they thought .012 IPR was a nice fine feed - but you will note in the scan this is expressed in turns per inch

Thumbnails are the incredibly stout gearing hiding under the cover

Tyrone Shoelaces · Sep 14, 2017

pressbrake1 said:
Thanks john, scan is very interesting.
What's yours like to use, I save old stuff for the pleasure but its nice when I can do some paying work on them which appeases the good lady and justifies my machine lust

Get used to getting your left hand burnt.

Regards Tyrone.

tdmidget · Sep 14, 2017

johnoder said:
I made $850 once in ten hours - with apron off no less, but it does not ever really have to do that. It involves itself in assisting with fixing my other machines, none of which have to earn a living. I last made a living twisting handles in 1972. Just retirement fun now. Its about pleasing me, no one else.

As to how is it, it is slow and growley and carbide is not to its liking. A hefty chunk of HSS with a nice hook solidly installed in the Aloris DA makes all the big chips I can handle. Its from the days when they thought .012 IPR was a nice fine feed - but you will note in the scan this is expressed in turns per inch

Thumbnails are the incredibly stout gearing hiding under the cover

Oh Yeah!!! Real machine porn!

alskdjfhg · Sep 14, 2017

I "saved" a 25x192 Model G from getting chopped up, it's newer than your selective head. But like John says, not much fast about it save for the feed rate.

It makes the 24x120 American Pacemaker (I saved it from scrap from the same folks), look like a toy.

pressbrake1 · Sep 14, 2017

Tyrone Shoelaces said:
Get used to getting your left hand burnt.

Regards Tyrone.

LHD encourages you to use feed!

Limy Sami · Sep 15, 2017

johnoder said:
I made $850 once in ten hours - with apron off no less,

John ....a bit off topic I know, ....but out of curiosity - when was that? ........it sparked a memory of a killing of , and I wondered how well I'd done.

johnoder · Sep 15, 2017

During this Sami - I'll dig up some of the photos and edit them in as thumbnails in this post

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-and-history/cheap-tools-working-alone-158765/

Limy Sami said:
John ....a bit off topic I know, ....but out of curiosity - when was that? ........it sparked a memory of a killing of , and I wondered how well I'd done.

hydraulicjay · Nov 21, 2017

i have a 24 l&s with 14 foot bed i am trying to find a chuck for this lathe the model number tag is missing and i was just wondering if anyone could help me identify what i have and if anyone know if any one sells these chucks anymore thanks

johnoder · Nov 21, 2017

wondering if anyone could help me identify what i have

The answer to the question is NO as to anybody still making. You might find one in a blue moon on Ebay - but they would not know if it was the small or larger one. I've seen exactly one piece of double nose spindle tooling in the last ten years on Ebay, and it was the smaller version.

Post 1927 Selective Head - has the larger version of their Double Spindle Nose - which amounts to a 8" - 4 thread INSIDE that 9 3/4" OD spindle flange (your photo is what screws into that thread)

Looks like this when you get that off

Tyrone Shoelaces · Nov 21, 2017

johnoder said:
During this Sami - I'll dig up some of the photos and edit them in as thumbnails in this post

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-and-history/cheap-tools-working-alone-158765/

I like the jack idea. Neat.

Regards Tyrone.

idacal · Nov 21, 2017

Hydrualicjay i had to make my own it was the smaller size 16” machine it was my first hreading project bought enough stock to do 3 and the 3rd turned ou quite well Im using with my 3 jaw. just have your local steel supply burn some stock out of 4” material and start making chips.

johnoder · Nov 22, 2017

Then there are other possibilities if one happens to get lucky. Some previous owner rounded up a dog driver and mounted this 20" four jaw on it

hydraulicjay · Nov 22, 2017

thanks for input i use this beast daily at my hydraulic shop the only real problem i have with old chuck is its so course that i have hard time fine tuning and i dont think i will never need to chuck a 24 inch piece but if i do i am going to keep chuck around just in case. i was hoping to find a company that would make a replacement because i need the lathe ever day i cant afford to be down. looking to buy another lathe soon then i can take the time to make what i need.
thanks

Paolo_MD · Nov 22, 2017

If the distance between spindle and tailstock is not a limiting factor, in large lathes it's rather common to chuck a smaller chuck in the big one. Of course, doing so, you're losing roughly 4" center-to-center and a little bit of rigidity.

But, for most things, this is an acceptable compromise.

Paolo

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