Marshall Henderson
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Peter sent these pictures that show the results of his latest "weekend" trip.
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Could this be a Wheeler Planer
- Thread starter Marshall Henderson
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Riderusty
Hot Rolled
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Wow!! What a perfect little machine. Pure artwork.
Tom B.
Tom B.
MILLWRIGHT
Aluminum
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Marshall,
Please could we have some basic dimensions ?
Please could we have some basic dimensions ?
peter
Titanium
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Thanks marshall,
This is the planer that was posted by Jim a couple weeks ago. I drove out to Kansas City and pickup up the machine. Jim was nice too meet me in KS city and reduced my driving by 7 hours.
its so cute! I had a mistaken idea this could be a Baldwin and now think that was completely wrong.
I went page by page threw Copes planer book yesterday and when i hit the "W". there is a Wheeler. I have seen a 3-4 foot Wheeler and the motif on the legs is the same. I might have photos someplace? So at least i think Wheeler is a candidate. Wheeler was in Worcester Mass and the machine previously came from close by update New York.
If anyone could suggest another builder or confirm the identitiy I would appreciate that very much. If I dont learn better, then once it gets cold, i'll try and make a visit to Worc Historical Society.
This is the planer that was posted by Jim a couple weeks ago. I drove out to Kansas City and pickup up the machine. Jim was nice too meet me in KS city and reduced my driving by 7 hours.
its so cute! I had a mistaken idea this could be a Baldwin and now think that was completely wrong.
I went page by page threw Copes planer book yesterday and when i hit the "W". there is a Wheeler. I have seen a 3-4 foot Wheeler and the motif on the legs is the same. I might have photos someplace? So at least i think Wheeler is a candidate. Wheeler was in Worcester Mass and the machine previously came from close by update New York.
If anyone could suggest another builder or confirm the identitiy I would appreciate that very much. If I dont learn better, then once it gets cold, i'll try and make a visit to Worc Historical Society.
peter
Titanium
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I can measure the table tonight. You can see when I have a choice- too mow the lawn or persue iron, where my priority goes. A basic idea of the size, the machine is on my front steps. the planks are 1x6, the table might(?) be 6x20 +/-inch? I will have to measure.
rivett608
Diamond
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Now that is really cute......... you should have called me when you were here in KC...... but maybe you did..... I have been away a lot this summer.
garyphansen
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Peter: Good Man! Here are a few things you can say when people ask why you have not cut your grass. 1. Gas is over $3.00 a gallon and the bank would not loan you any more money. 2. The lawn mower is broken. (I am not promoting lieing hear, if you use this one you should first break your lawn mower, it is easy.) 3. The grass turns carbon dioxiced into O. so you are saving the enviroment. 4. yYou are letting your lawn reseed it self. 5. You have a bad back (If you have one) 6. You are trying to make Al Gore happy. 7> The deer need to eat too. Gary P. Hansen
Michael Edwards
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Waaaay cool Peter! Looks great, even the vises are neat. Thanks for the tool porn.
ME
ME
peter
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Rivett,
This is twice or 3, this time I was on a very tight schedule, I had be at work monday and both mind and body.
It was a shame, when I was out for the Brink auction and then there was time. I need to remember your handle with the KS location.
And Michael, speaking of tool porn. Rivett, you are local guy. Whats up with all the "XXX" places on Rt 70 in Mo? I mean one or two might be understandable where an adjacnet state had some kind of ban. but I mean it like all the western&indian souvineer places are replaced with smut peddlers. I am no prude, for sure, but its just so (what to say) (open?) almost every exit -hugh billboards XXX this or XXX that. I have drove across Nevada and dont see anything remotely aproaching that level of advertising and they they really have xxx for sale. Well, maybe way too OT for this board. Just an obseravtion I could not help but make. back to tools....
This is twice or 3, this time I was on a very tight schedule, I had be at work monday and both mind and body.
It was a shame, when I was out for the Brink auction and then there was time. I need to remember your handle with the KS location.
And Michael, speaking of tool porn. Rivett, you are local guy. Whats up with all the "XXX" places on Rt 70 in Mo? I mean one or two might be understandable where an adjacnet state had some kind of ban. but I mean it like all the western&indian souvineer places are replaced with smut peddlers. I am no prude, for sure, but its just so (what to say) (open?) almost every exit -hugh billboards XXX this or XXX that. I have drove across Nevada and dont see anything remotely aproaching that level of advertising and they they really have xxx for sale. Well, maybe way too OT for this board. Just an obseravtion I could not help but make. back to tools....
antique iron
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That thing's cute as a bugs ear. But that crank sort of redefines the word apprenticeship.
Paul
Paul
northernsinger
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We've had some discussion about the 'trefoil,' or 'three leaf clover,' or Gothic ornamentation of machine tools and this hand planer is a good illustration of it.
northernsinger
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By the way, beautiful as this thing is--and it is!--I don't think it looks particularly like the Wheeler example in the Cope reference.
You've got to hand it to Peter, though (or think about what he's done), as he drove from massachusetts to Missouri and back over a weekend to pick this thing up.
So far I don't do that.
You've got to hand it to Peter, though (or think about what he's done), as he drove from massachusetts to Missouri and back over a weekend to pick this thing up.
So far I don't do that.
rivett608
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" Whats up with all the "XXX" places on Rt 70 in Mo? "...... I really don't know... must be a lot of bored farmers and truckers?... I almost never drive anywhere around here (except to the airport) so I don't see I-70 but about once a year... if that.
peter
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Millwright: The table measures 6x18.
Northernsinger: I too might(?) have seen other machine with the 3 leaf clover and with your comments I would believe there must be other makers using that design. I'd be interested in the name of any builder that used a 3 leaf design closely matching this one. Maybe odds are its not a Wheeler, but its the only quess I have and an angle to research.
AntiqueIron: I am not sure I follow the apprentice senario. Are you refering to the case where some of the simple machine work like handles etc.. were done by apprentice grade worker? On the earlier putnam machines each one seems to have a little different turning design to the handles and oil caps.
[ 08-21-2007, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: peter ]
Northernsinger: I too might(?) have seen other machine with the 3 leaf clover and with your comments I would believe there must be other makers using that design. I'd be interested in the name of any builder that used a 3 leaf design closely matching this one. Maybe odds are its not a Wheeler, but its the only quess I have and an angle to research.
AntiqueIron: I am not sure I follow the apprentice senario. Are you refering to the case where some of the simple machine work like handles etc.. were done by apprentice grade worker? On the earlier putnam machines each one seems to have a little different turning design to the handles and oil caps.
[ 08-21-2007, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: peter ]
northernsinger
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Peter here's the repeat photograph of a Brainard milling machine I saw early this summer, with the trefoil casting:
I'll say it again, that's a beautiful planer.
I'll say it again, that's a beautiful planer.
rammerc
Cast Iron
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Peter,
First congrats on the newest planer. Probably the nicest little hand operated machine I have seen to date.Well worth the long ride.
I think antique iron just meant you needed an apprentice to operate the hand crank. I keep trying to talk my better half into getting her exercise on one of my treddle lathes !
Rick
First congrats on the newest planer. Probably the nicest little hand operated machine I have seen to date.Well worth the long ride.
I think antique iron just meant you needed an apprentice to operate the hand crank. I keep trying to talk my better half into getting her exercise on one of my treddle lathes !
Rick
IrbyJones
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I'll sure second that!!! Ya did good, Peter!
And...
I'll say it again to you - northernsinger - have you talked that fellow out of the Brainard mill yet?
Irby
antique iron
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Just an observation that todays apprentice has a bit different road than the day when that crank might have been the order of the day.
peter
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Northernsinger,
Thanks for the pic, thats an interesting old style mill, I missed that origional posting. I welcome all leads and opinions. yes, so perhaps many/several builders used this clover design.
None the less, I might want to do a little research sometime into Brainard. Where was the factory hydepark? I will look for the old thread.
[ 08-21-2007, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: peter ]
Thanks for the pic, thats an interesting old style mill, I missed that origional posting. I welcome all leads and opinions. yes, so perhaps many/several builders used this clover design.
None the less, I might want to do a little research sometime into Brainard. Where was the factory hydepark? I will look for the old thread.
[ 08-21-2007, 12:32 PM: Message edited by: peter ]
peter
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I'd like to bump this up one more time, say thankyuo for the compliments and advise given.
