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    Default Hendey 14x6 #19533 any info, please!

    Just picked up this Hendey lathe has 14x6 on it as well as a brass plate with the # L595 On the bed was another # 19533. I picked it up on craigslist for $450 that included the 3 jaw head, 4 jaw, tool holder, and the 3ph converter. Hope I did ok with this one. I will see if I can post some picts of it too. Thanks.

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    Adding picts of the Hendey
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    These are the rest of the pictures that I have right now. I don't know much about it, It has a taper device, theading device, and it's a little hard to turn the head. I have been oiling it today and seems to help, but I dont know if I'm going to have to replace bearings or not yet. Also it doesnt seem to want to stay in gear ( the gears and belt drive part that engages with the lever). I dont have it hooked up to electric yet, but from just pulling the handle and moving the belt from the motor to the gear up top, the unit goes back to the loose position. Also the leather belt that goes from the back cone to the front cone could be a little tighter I think, But then again, I never messed with something that ran off a leather strap. So all help i s welcome. Thanks
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    I suspect a good few here will be green with envy

    I think the drive belt should be routed under the back-gear shaft and not run over it - that might be why the spindle is stiff.

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    Manual scan if needed - thanks to Greg Menke for hosting:

    http://pounceatron.dreamhosters.com/...dey-manual.pdf

    You don't replace bearings, you make new ones. Originals were a very special aluminum bronze.

    This is an early (before 1920) that likely got factory rebuilt since it has late thirties legs and Hendey's very nice drive system.

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    Congrats. I was looking at that one, too, but didn't have a chance to go see it.

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    For $450, with all those accessories, I'm sure you've picked a winner!

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    Thanks guys for getting back to me. I will check the belt, even with the belt in the loose position, the head is still pretty tight. I would like to be able to make new bearings, but I need a lathe to do it with. Glad I got to this one before anyone else did... So this might be ok to spend some time on it and use it. I have not touched a lathe for about 16yrs, so I will have to relearn the whole thing over again. I never used a taper device or a threader, so hope I can figure this out. Where should I love for the leather belt when I need to replace it. Just figure I would ask. If there is anything else I should know about this machine or what I should try to do with it before I take the head apart and try to figure out what to do about the bearing thing. Well keep me informed. Thanks Again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billtodd View Post
    I suspect a good few here will be green with envy

    I think the drive belt should be routed under the back-gear shaft and not run over it - that might be why the spindle is stiff.

    Bill
    The spindle is the part that the leather belt goes over, that part spins nice, its the part the jaws are spinning on, I can turn the jaw if I use a little extra force to get it started, just feels tight. I dont know how long it sat before I got it, so I started using 10wt oil for a fan to help lube it before I get it hooked up to the electric. Next thing is to figure out how to connect the 3ph converter to this.

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    Default Hendey Purchase

    I noticed that one on Craigslist the other night as well. Along with I think 2-3 other Hendeys within a 500 mile range of me. I'm no expert and I'm in the midst of a restoration of a Hardinge Cataract right now which is my first lathe. However I woudn't be turning on any power until you can manually move all the stuff nice and easy by hand. If something is stuck and you engage the electrics you might make it worse. I'd be inclined to take it nice and easy. And when you do start it I'd start in the slowest gearing just in case.
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    The lower run of the belt is shown going over the central shaft of the back gear. It should go under same.

    Hendey spindles have a tendency to tighten up with age because the bearings are conical. The thrust surface wears away faster than the conical surface allowing the lathe spindle (not the back gear central shaft) to settle further and further back into the conical fit of the front bearing until there is no more running clearance.

    It is fixed by shimming the thrust ring just behind the flange on the front of the spindle. Naturally this requires taking the spindle completely out.

    Many have written about this on this forum and you will find such writings by using the search function and such key words as Hendey Spindle and Hendey Thrust.

    A good book on generalities of lathe operation - such as cutting threads - is How To Run A Lathe.

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    I think I will take it slow. I dont want to make it any worse than it is. I am looking for some insight on what I should try second for loosing up the head/spindle not sure what to call it yet. Like I said, so far I just oiled it and it made it a little easier to turn, just feels tight still.

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    JFulmer:

    I may have been at this Hendey thing too long, but for some reason I keep thinking that
    I have posted the history of this lathe before. Anyway, here is what I could find.

    Hendey lathe #19533 is a 14 x 6 Geared Head model (stay with me on this one). It was
    shipped with a Taper Attachment, Oil Pan and a set of #2 Collets. Standard motor drive
    was supplied. The original owner was the Frankford Arsenal, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.


    In early 1938, this lathe was shipped back to Hendey as part of their rebuild program.
    The work was completed on April 13, 1938. It was rebuilt with Cabinet Legs (replacing
    the "A" frame style) and the Cone Motor Drive system now installed. The most interest-
    ing part is the fact that it was changed from a Geared Head to a Cone Head, not a com-
    mon practice during rebuilds.

    Hendeyman

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    hendeyman's quote: "I may have been at this Hendey thing too long, but for some reason I keep thinking thatI have posted the history of this lathe before."

    You did hendeyman. hendey 14x6 lathe

    It had a tight spindle then too.

    Does that belt on the spindle have two splices?? An added section?

    JimB

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    Thanks Jim - maybe JFulmer will open the link about tight spindle topic

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    Thanks for the info on my lathe. The guy I got it from, said he got it from a guy that got it from the F.A. The guy I got it from never had it running. I just got this machine last night on Jan. 4, 2012. So I will check out anymore post that you have had. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimB View Post
    hendeyman's quote: "I may have been at this Hendey thing too long, but for some reason I keep thinking thatI have posted the history of this lathe before."

    You did hendeyman. hendey 14x6 lathe

    It had a tight spindle then too.

    Does that belt on the spindle have two splices?? An added section?

    JimB


    I looked at the post that you stated and I believe this is the same machine I now own. Hendeyman asked about the gear vs cone and this one is the cone. The belt does have the splice in it. I think I will have to shorten the belt just a little.

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    [QUOTE=johnoder;1724156]The lower run of the belt is shown going over the central shaft of the back gear. It should go under same.

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    I tryed it under the shaft and it rubs on the pivot for the back gears. I have pictures of it.

    Well I guess I will have to try again tomar. The image is to big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnoder View Post
    Thanks Jim - maybe JFulmer will open the link about tight spindle topic
    I tryed to open the topic and all I get is "Forbidden" on the top of the page.

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    JimB:

    Many thanks for checking on this, I was starting to think "too many Hendeys, not enough
    time".

    Hendeyman

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