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11-13-2009, 04:02 PM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Coastal Mississippi
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LeBlond Horizontal Mill with Slotting Attachment
I found this mill on Craigslist in Dallas. Is the attachment shop made? If it's factory I would like to have it, if it would fit my LeBlond No. 1 1/2. That mill is heavier than mine. http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/tls/1425268031.html
Picture coming. JimB
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11-13-2009, 04:15 PM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Mine is flat lonely without an attachment.
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11-13-2009, 04:20 PM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, TX USA
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Need to take one of those 8s off the area code.
John Oder
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11-13-2009, 04:24 PM
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Cast Iron
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Oh that's a phone number! I didn't know what that was.
and Thanks
JimB
Last edited by JimB; 11-13-2009 at 04:31 PM.
Reason: added thanks
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11-13-2009, 05:24 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: upper michigan
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is it like this I posted this on here several years ago free of charge built a crate for it and got the weight of it and never got word back from the guy so I still have it sitting in its crate that I made
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11-13-2009, 06:09 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: eastern blowville heights, ohio
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If it will help, here is a scan of the LeBlond slotting attachment page from their 1919 Heavy Duty Milling Catalog:
Mike
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11-13-2009, 06:33 PM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, TX USA
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Right - Mike Hill's photo does not show the base that bolts to face of column.
Clearly it fits in the bore of the main part.
John Oder
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11-13-2009, 07:08 PM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Thanks Mike (Mister Honey). Looks like a conversion or shop made slotter on the Dallas machine. I thought I remembered a full ring attachment to the mill like your scan shows not a three tab attachment.
A LeBlond slotter would be a very nice attachment. JimB
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11-13-2009, 08:22 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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The one on the Dallas machine looks like a Brown & Sharpe(post cone drive period).
Rob
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11-13-2009, 09:11 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: upper michigan
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I am not certain if the one I have is off a leblond, but it does look similar, it either has a morse or a jarno taper, if anyone needs this piece to finish off their machine let me know and you can have it for free but you take care of ALL aspects of shipping.
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11-17-2009, 08:06 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Auburn, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimB
Mine is flat lonely without an attachment.
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JimB,
I just picked up a LeBlond mill just like yours and had planned to adapt a Bridgeport M head to it. When I went to pick it up, I found that it came with a 90 vertical milling attachment and now I'm considering using the machine as is. Do you have any specs about the machine, or any type of manual for it's use? Do you like it? Looks like it has power x and y travel, is it powered on the z axis as well?
I'm just a beginner so any advice you could give would be greatly appreciated.
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11-17-2009, 11:27 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Welcome to the forum Cooper. Of course you know you will have to post pictures of your LeBlond.
Maybe start another thread with the pictures and a good descriptive title so we can find your machine info later. I've started a Blog on mine here. Right now I'm trying to get a good adjustment on the spindle. About page 188 describes the spindle http://books.google.com/books?id=d0r...pindle&f=false.
I'm also working to install a Halco Head on the overarm.
What number is on the right side of your mill? Is it a universal?
Bruce Johnson posted some info on the weights and sizes of these old mill here. You will have to go down a little in the thread. LeBlond "1 1/2" Horizontal Universal Mill
That's about all we have available in written material. Mister Honey and Bruce are the experts on LeBlonds.
JimB
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11-17-2009, 01:09 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Burbank, CA USA
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Hello Cooper;
Welcome to a very exclusive club! As Jim said, there are only a couple of us who own LeBlond mills. As we pass over the 100 year anniversary of these machines, I'm beginning to think that there are only about 10 of them left here in the US. So, we're thrilled to know of the existence of another one, and an owner who appreciates it!
Between us, we have some information, but it isn't much. We'll share copies and answer questions as we can. Show us some pictures, and we'll start from there.
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11-17-2009, 10:35 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Auburn, WA
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I wish I had more information to give you all at this time, but I don't actually have the mill in my possession yet, but I will be picking it up this weekend. What I can say is I believe it's a #3 and it has a transmission mounted on top updated with a series of v belt drives. I picked up the 90 degree attachment, though, and I'll post a few pics of it tomorrow.
The machine is in great shape and obviously well cared for; I'd just like to know its capabilities. Like I said, I'm a novice here...
Joe Cooper
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11-18-2009, 08:49 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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11-19-2009, 04:12 AM
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Cast Iron
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That looks like the real deal. A LeBlond vertical head attachment. The smaill pin fits into a hole in the LeBlond's flat area and the larger dowel fits in one of the overarm supports. It has no quill, but you've got a rare piece there.
Did this machine come from Oregon? Same color as this one that has a motor mounted on top:
WTS Leblond Mill
JimB
Last edited by JimB; 11-19-2009 at 07:04 AM.
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11-19-2009, 08:25 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Auburn, WA
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You're a bloodhound, JimB. Yeah I just bought that mill in Portland, looked much smaller in the pictures. Needless to say it didn't fit in my truck and I have to go back down there with a flatbed.
What do you mean "it has no quill"? I've been fooled by the threaded rotating mass...what am I lacking and how can I build it?
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11-19-2009, 12:40 PM
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Hot Rolled
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Burbank, CA USA
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It's great to finally see a real, in-the-iron, LeBlond vertical milling attachment! It may be the only one left.
What Jim meant about the quill is that it doesn't have a separate sliding spindle in the vertical axis, like a drill press or a Bridgeport head. You could theoretically mount a drill chuck in it, but you'd have to crank up the table to do the drilling, which would be very tedious. This attachment is designed for milling, getting into odd angles and places that you couldn't reach with horizontal milling cutters.
If this LeBlond is going to be your only mill, and you want to be able to set it up for precision drilling, then you'll need to find a separate head assembly from a turret mill (a Bridgeport-style mill). You then make up an adapter to mount it to the round bar overarm support on the top of the LeBlond. Then you can use the LeBlond's own spindle for the heavy horizontal milling, or the mill head for drilling and multi-angle work. Many owners of old horizontal mills add the vertical head to make the machine more versatile.
By the way, I think the one you've bought is the only LeBlond #2 mill that we know of still in existence. The #3's appear to have been the most common. We're still waiting for a #5 to turn up somewhere.
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11-19-2009, 02:45 PM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Auburn, WA
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Just so happens that I have a bridgeport round ram head in very good condition with which I planned to do just that very thing. However, if I can make use of the machine as is, I might just mount the 90 attachment and call it good, though I might try to find a more attractive motor/transmission mount configuration.
I'm sure the capacity must be better than the 1/2hp m head, and I don't mind it being tedious (I say now) just so long as it's accurate. I don't use a mill as a drill press much anyway. Will I be lucky enough to discover the mill has power z feed?
Any advantages with a horizontal I should be made aware of?
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11-19-2009, 04:20 PM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Coastal Mississippi
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Uses for a Horizontal Mill
There are threads on this. Some with lots of photos of setups, some in the Heavy Iron section. Like this:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...=1#post1111025
Set Up To Bore Apron
You'll find a lot of information. johnoder has great photos of his projects.
You should have power feed on the z.
Bruce I've found another No.2 (Dug through my old hard drive) with a vertical head: JimB
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