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Old 10-25-2009, 07:24 PM
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Have one shaper, a Wm. Barker and Co. of Cincinnati, OH. Don't know the vintage, and have found absolutely squat about them, or the firm that made 'em. I speculate the stroke is around 22"-24", but have never measured it. It has flattened hundreds of castings, 24" long, for us over the last 50 years (in addition to other work), thus my supposition as to capacity.

Given the lack of a gearbox (four-pulley cone is speed choice), no front support for the table, no crank ram position adjustment (adjust ram via the armstrong method), and other amenities, I figure it is a 1900 or thereabouts model.

It is big, black, growls, and will walk across the concrete on long stokes if not solidly bolted to the floor.
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Old 10-25-2009, 07:42 PM
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Default Hendey 12" Universal Crank Shaper Universal Ser#1370

Haven't got to it's permanent resting place. Hope to have it running this week. Kenny
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:07 PM
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My list: 24" Cincinnati, 7" Atlas, both of which have very low hours. Also have a 36" Rockford planer, crank driven not hydraulic.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:17 PM
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I have a Steptoe 16 inch shaper, a Cincinnati 24 inch universal shaper. A Rockford Hydraulic 36 inch Planer and a Rockford 12 foot three headed planer.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:03 PM
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1970 Steptoe-Western 12X High Speed Toolroom shaper with optional sine table, pressure lube, and 2hp motor. Also have a Van Norman 2G planer mill, if that counts.
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:13 PM
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An Atlas 7B shaper
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:06 PM
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Brian,

I've got a small Federal planer. But you know that.

Allen
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:30 PM
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Great idea asking this question!

I have a 24" Cinncinati Standard with a universal table and the automatic down feed. I believe it was built in 1940.

I also have a 12" Steptoe Western with universal table. It was built in 1978.

Jay
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Old 10-25-2009, 10:57 PM
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Rhodes, 7".

John Martin
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:07 PM
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chiming in for Marshall.
the 20" Gemco STD duty I mentioned in another thread is his.
It awaits a ride to Iowa.
He's got the Cincinnatti Universal too 16" or 18" ??

m1m
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:45 AM
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I have a Brodhead Garrett JLine 8", a ShapeRite 8", a Hendey 12" High speed universal, a G&E 16" universal toolroom, and a William Sallew 20".
Greg
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:31 AM
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*** a Hendey 12" High speed universal, a G&E 16" universal toolroom *** Greg
Nice collection Greg! Would you mind sharing your impressions about the Hendey 12" vs. the G&E 16" ? Rigidity, footprint, chutch mechanisms, versitility, useful speeds, quirks ... which do you prefer, why, and is either a realistic step up for a home shop guy currently using an AMMCO 6". I'm willing to updrade to three-phase power. I've seen a Hendey 12 in person (but not a G&E 16 yet) and I'm not sure I want to devote that much floor space. Thanks, Bob
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:44 AM
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1902 20" Hendey friction shaper, serial #198....up and running.

1960's 12" Sheldon crank shaper....stored.

There are a few reasons I don't own more: money, SWMBO would kill me, my shop floor is sagging enough already.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:26 AM
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Late model Elliott 14M (metric, 350mm stroke) standard table.

Very lightly used when I acquired it, and still is

regards

Brian
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:00 AM
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I have one Atlas 7B with vise. I think I might start a thread about how many have OE vises for their shapers!!! That might be interesting.
Jerry
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:06 AM
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I have a 12 inch Sheldon and an 8 inch Shaperite, with original vises.
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:38 AM
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I have 2 shapers. A 16" Steptoe probably from 1910-1920 and a 15" Joba probably from the 1940's. Both are very nice, smooth running machines.
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:10 AM
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Default G&E 16 & Hendey 12

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Nice collection Greg! Would you mind sharing your impressions about the Hendey 12" vs. the G&E 16" ? Rigidity, footprint, chutch mechanisms, versitility, useful speeds, quirks ... which do you prefer, why, and is either a realistic step up for a home shop guy currently using an AMMCO 6". I'm willing to updrade to three-phase power. I've seen a Hendey 12 in person (but not a G&E 16 yet) and I'm not sure I want to devote that much floor space. Thanks, Bob
Bob, I can't be a whole lot of help because I haven't run the Hendey yet, other than to say that either of them is a gigantic step up from a bench type machine. It's hard to see the thousand extra pounds in the G&E over the Hendey (4000 vs 3000) but I guess it's a little bit everywhere. I think the Toolroom model I have is probably the lightest G&E during the war years. It is a super nice machine, very smooth and powerful with a nice range of feeds and speeds. The clutch is positive and it has rapid traverse and power downfeed. I don't know if the Hendey has rapid, but it does have power down.

They are really about the same footprint with the G&E being a little longer. Both tables turn and nod. For a toolroom shaper, they are plenty rigid, but the Hendey does not have a lower table support.

If anybody can help, I need a vise for the G&E. I am using an 8" milling vise now. 5/8" tee slots are 7 1/2" center to center.
Greg
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:12 AM
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Some pictures of mine are in the Thread shaper Work Ideas,

Room limits my collection to smaller machines.

Boynton& Plummer
2 Rhodes
South Bend
Logan
Ammco
Vernon

Hand shapers
Bradley
Perfecto five
Adept
English Shaper kit (Art Volz donation)

Two Small Planers

Federal
Tom senior ( hand planer)

Rick
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:17 AM
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I have a 8" Shaperite.
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