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10-26-2009, 06:41 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: scotland united kingdom
Posts: 476
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Shaperhaven,
I have the following---
6" stroke power driven Adepttravelling head shaper (purchased new 1959
10"stroke Royal, (builders New Realm Engineering Co of Croydon England)
Nice machine with a tilting table
6" stroke Denham vertical shaper powerfull machine 3 speed cone pulley
drive, Came from maintenance dept large brewery 1939-45 machine war
finish still nice
Hand powered Tom Senior double column bench type planing machine
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10-26-2009, 06:42 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 321
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I own a Ludwig Gack H20 Universal from 1958.
Benta.
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10-26-2009, 06:56 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 38
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I picked up an AMMCO 7" a few weeks ago. Works wonders on the oddball stock I'm always scrounging up for different projects.
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10-26-2009, 06:57 AM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Columbus, IN USA
Posts: 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Benta
I own a Ludwig Gack H20 Universal from 1958.
Benta.
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Benta, you need to post a photo of that shaper. Given the penchant for Germans to engineer hell out of things, it about has to be a very nice machine.
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10-26-2009, 07:05 AM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: PugetSoundWA
Posts: 67
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Cincinnati 20"
I have a Cincinnati 20" from about 1912. It has the original vise. The table is not universal.
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10-26-2009, 07:11 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Albany, OR 97321
Posts: 419
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1943 Cincinnati Heavy Duty 16" shaper, with power downfeed. Standard table.
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10-26-2009, 07:14 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 363
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8" Boxford with universal table and power v/h feed.
7" South Bend
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10-26-2009, 07:17 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Germany
Posts: 321
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Jdleach, it's in parts at this time, so I don't have any good photos.
However, Michael Moore's site has scans of my brochure of the machine:
http://www.eurospares.com/shapers.htm
It's almost at the end of the page.
Intersting is, that it has both transversal and vetical power feed (though not at the same time), and that there is both a forward and a reverse cutting clapper box (also not at the same time :-).
Best Regards,
Benta.
PS: the correct year is 1956, not 1958.
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10-26-2009, 07:26 AM
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Plastic
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Hampshire UK
Posts: 34
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I have what I believe is a Portass hand shaper - possibly the one pictured on Tony's site:
http://www.lathes.co.uk/portass/page18.html
(The angle plate for the machine is being used to prop it up in the pictures).
I haven't used it yet, I'm looking for a suitable small vice.
Jim.
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10-26-2009, 07:42 AM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Detroit 'burbs
Posts: 116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmw
*** They are really about the same footprint with the G&E being a little longer. Both tables turn and nod. For a toolroom shaper, they are plenty rigid, but the Hendey does not have a lower table support.
If anybody can help, I need a vise for the G&E. I am using an 8" milling vise now. 5/8" tee slots are 7 1/2" center to center.
Greg
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Greg,
Thanks for the info, and the pics. It was very helpful. Check your messages for some G&E vise info.
Bob
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10-26-2009, 09:05 AM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: FLA>_USA
Posts: 121
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Guess I'll gloat a little... 
2 7" Atlas shapers
3 Rhodes
1 7" shaper
1 "convertable" shaper/slotter
1 3.5" slotter- complete with in/out table & rotary table
1 Perfecto hand shaper (6" stroke)
1 16"x16"x42" 1850ish Ezra Gould planer
And still "jonesin" for more! 
"Make Swarf & Prosper"....John
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10-26-2009, 09:29 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern California
Posts: 410
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Shaper progression
I started out with a 7" Atlas, which I sold and replaced with a 7" Southbend, relaced by a 8"Havir, replaced by a 16" Whip... replaced by a 16" Cinc Plain and a 24" Rockford Universal Hy-draulic.
Cyclotronguy
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10-26-2009, 09:56 AM
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Diamond
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, TX USA
Posts: 12,612
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36" Ohio made in '51 under an Army contract that specified everything had to be made in Ohio. I suppose it was a special purpose deal. When I got it had no clapper box and some added tapped holes where the clapper box went.
Previous shapers have included 36" Gemco, 16" G&E Toolroom Universal and 16" Heavy Hendey.
John Oder
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10-26-2009, 10:52 AM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: downhill from Twain\'s study outside Elmira, NY
Posts: 3,958
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16" Rockford Heavy. Crank shaper. Plain table, outboard support, original vise. Actual stroke is 21"+ x 23" table travel.
Still hoping to find a 5' planer "not too far away"
smt
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10-26-2009, 11:20 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Pittsfield,NH,USA
Posts: 328
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Sb 7"
I have an early South Bend 7", (no oil pump). It has a vise but not a SB, perhaps it's a Hardinge.
This may not count but there is a Bridgeport E head in my shop with the original factory cutters.
hms50
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10-26-2009, 11:49 AM
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Cast Iron
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Torrington Ct. USA
Posts: 251
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1919 16" Hendey Heavy Duty, 1948 12" Hendey High Speed with universal table (200 SPM aluminum ram) unknown year 8" made by the apprentices at Seth Thomas Clocks (will post some pictures) 1960's 7" Southbend.
Looking for more!
Terry
Last edited by Bellindustries; 10-26-2009 at 11:49 AM.
Reason: Forgot some specs.
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10-26-2009, 12:35 PM
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Aluminum
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Silverado, CA
Posts: 81
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Two South Bends:
Early 50's model without oil pump
1978 model with pump
Early model Logan 7"
Looking for a 12" Sheldon to buy.
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10-26-2009, 12:43 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Bentley, Louisiana
Posts: 3,246
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We have a Gould and Eberhardt 24" and a 12" Pratt & Whitney vertical shaper.
Richard
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10-26-2009, 01:37 PM
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Stainless
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Gaston, Oregon USA
Posts: 1,104
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I listed my real shapers and planers in an earlier post, but seems incredible I didn't mention, that I MAKE a shaper as part of the VersaMil set. In fact I'm shipping one out today. It's a shaper attachment that is used with a VersaMil. Driven by a crank powered by the main unit, it has a maximum of a five inch stroke. It MAY be the ONLY shaping attachment of any kind made in America, now that Volstro is history. There's one on EVERY US NAVY nuclear submarine!
So while Milacron sticks anything about shapers in the antique section, one of the US most sophisticated machines ( submarines) still uses this "obsolete" machine tool as part of the toolroom.
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10-26-2009, 01:47 PM
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Titanium
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lawn Guylin, Noo Yawk
Posts: 2,282
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Only one now !
12" Sheldon, purchased from PM member Saratoga Bill -- thanks Bill, it's a keeper !
Anybody have a spare vise for one of these?
Had a 7" Ammco for ten years and never set up, but recently found it a new home.
Also saved a circa 1905 16" Smith and Mills. Talk about buyer's remorse, but it too has since found a loving new owner.
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