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Old 10-31-2009, 05:38 AM
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Default Ammco 7"

Just joined the shaper owners club with the purchase of an AMMCO. I must confess I've never run a shaper before so it's going to be fun! This machine had a cheapo drillpress vise on it. Anyone have a link to plans or detailed photos of shaper vises to help me make one? I've googled a bit but haven't found any plans.
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:04 AM
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Found this:

http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/T...ShaperVise.pdf

Gives me an idea anyway.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:45 AM
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Default Steptoe shapers

I have 2 Steptoe shapers, a 16" and a 20". The 16" I bought from my high school machine shop while I was in the 12th grade. That was 35 years ago. The 20" I bought recently.

I do not know the age of them, but thiink the 16" is from the teens. Our high school had gotten it from government surplus in the 1960's. It was originally flat belt driven, but had been converted to motor drive and V-belts. Serial no. 7, Lot no. 282 is stamped on top of the ram.

The 20" is newer, but still has its countershaft. Serial no. 731, Lot no. 341. It had been used in a lineshaft shop in Madison, Wisconsin before I got it and was never converted to individual drive.

I do not know if Steptoe used a Lot no. when numbering their shapers or if both these shapers were originally government bought and the Lot no. was used by them?

Mark
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:44 PM
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My 16" John Steptoe Co shaper has lot and serial # also. Lot 325, serial # 430. I figured that my machine was made in the teens but am not sure. I think I read somewhere that John Steptoe Co. went out of business in 1924.
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:16 PM
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Serial book has very little on the Steptoe. Oldest serial is for the end of 1935 and is A-40284-TR

John Oder
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:23 PM
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I've got a 7" AMMCO also. It seems like a toy compared to the 26" Potter and Johnston I had to leave in Minnesota when I moved to Nevada.
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:11 PM
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Default 24" Steptoe

I bought this one at the scrapyard. It came from Douglas Dam in E TN. Ordered in 1942 but not shipped till 1947. A world war makes for slow freight.



Lynn
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:34 PM
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Here's my laundry list;

1- Ammco with a vise. Also have a spare 4" rotary table, they are knida' hard to find.

1- Atlas 7B on factory legs and a vise

1- Atlas 7B no vise or legs

1- Vernon (Vernon was prior to the Sheldon acquisition) 12" with a vise (thinking it has a universal table) variable speed.

Several extra sets of Atlas legs.

The beauty in all of this is that they are all reasonably priced for immediate delivery.

Thanks;
Craig Donges
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Old 11-01-2009, 02:53 AM
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Default Elliott 14M pictures

I forgot when making my original post #34 that I still had some photo's on line which may be of interest to the assembled shaperisti.

Elliott 14M

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../Elliot%2014M/

Some shaper tools

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...per%20tooling/

regards

Brian
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:47 AM
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Dale,

The serial on mine is 7544.

Tom B.
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strokersix View Post
Found this:

http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/T...ShaperVise.pdf

Gives me an idea anyway.
That's the little beastie. That centering pin should have an extra 3/4" or so threaded end on it to clamp it from inside the table. When looking at the bottom of the graduated column, that drawing only shows 2 key slots. Mine has 3, and forms a T shape around the pin.

I'll post some pictures at some point, but I just retrieved my AWOL digital camera with dead batteries and no USB cable.
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:40 PM
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I have four Gould & Eberhardt shapers, ranging from the turn of the century to 1979.
14" plain table
16" plain table
24" universal table
28" universal table

ME
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Old 11-01-2009, 01:20 PM
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I have a Logan 8" and a Smith & Mills 16". Bill B.
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Old 11-01-2009, 02:44 PM
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I'm a newbie with shapers but have just got two...an Adept 1A hand powered and an Adept 2A with a home-made power conversion attachment. Just getting 'em rigged up........John
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:11 PM
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We have a 20" G&E Shaper. Traded a 13" Reid Prentice for it. It is serial number 4 and it has square ways! We used it on a couple hundred aluminum castings while we were still in New York. vanvelsor@windstream.net.
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:25 PM
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Smile Shaper owners


I have a 7" SBL shaper.
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Old 11-01-2009, 04:31 PM
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We have a 20" G&E shaper wich we traded a 13" Reid Prentice for while we were still in New York. We machined a couple of hundred aluminum castings with it. The interesting thing about this particular machine is that it is serial number 4 and it has square ways.
Donald Velzy @ vanvelsor@windstream.net.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:17 PM
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I have a 7" South Bend, currently disassembled for cleaning.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:44 PM
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3 at the moment , 14 inch Elliott, small Alba , and a Britannia, as seen in the avatar, (slowly getting restored )

working on a job today, i think i need a bigger shaper.......
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:57 PM
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Default 20 inch

I have a 20 inch cincinatti that I use nearly everyday it is great you can see pics of the resto on big nasty shaper
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