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    Question Water control taps on Crossley Engine (manufacturer)

    Dear forum members,

    Does anyone know the name of the manufacturer of the water control taps on the picture? Apparently they are made in usa and there's also logo on it. Something with an A and a S?

    The taps are used on a Crossley SE2.22 horizontal gas engine of 1918 (Netherlands). As far as we know the taps are originally delivered with the engine in 1919.

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    kind regards,

    Wim

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    Hmmm. Good one! Looks like AJS or other combination. Don't think it's American Standard, Jenkins or Sloan, but I'll keep thinking. Well, for as good as an old ex-plumber can.

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    Wim,

    I'm thinking 'SV' - a US manufacturer called S------- Valves?

    I don't think you'll get much response here. You'll probably do better in the Smokstak forum. That has numerous sections, but I should try the 'Junque Drawer' first:-

    The Junque Drawer - SmokStak

    Failing that, try one of the other sections, perhaps the 'Stationary Steam and Traction Engines' section (I know it's not a steam engine, but they might be able to help with water/steam valves!):-

    http://www.smokstak.com/forum/index.php

    Beautiful-looking restoration of the engine, by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wim Stuut View Post
    Dear forum members,

    Does anyone know the name of the manufacturer of the water control taps on the picture? Apparently they are made in usa and there's also logo on it. Something with an A and a S?
    Are you sure that is not a 'Vee' entwined with the 'Ess'?


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    Rotate 90 degrees left and zoom in. Note the wear pattern on the letters on the hex flat of the gland nut.

    Could there be a leading character or two now missing?

    Adding: FWIW ... 'American Standard' & predecessors long predate the Great War, and had a larger than average European presence than typical for US makers, (American Radiator, for cast-iron heating radiators, primarily) but were not using the Ameriican Standard name until many years later. See 'Early History' under:

    History of American Standard Companies Inc. – FundingUniverse


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    Many many years ago I had an A J S motorcycle that had that same emblem on it. It was made in England. Crossley was originally an English company with licence to build engines in many different country's including the U.S. I know it says made in USA on the gland nut ,but that is the AJS logo on the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailstock View Post
    Many many years ago I had an A J S motorcycle that had that same emblem on it. It was made in England. Crossley was originally an English company with licence to build engines in many different country's including the U.S. I know it says made in USA on the gland nut ,but that is the AJS logo on the body.
    One could make the case that there is indeed an "A" superposed over a "J" in turn atop an "S". Adding; And perhaps an 'M' at the bottom?..

    And the Steven's 'clan' were into a great many things mechanical ...

    Adding; Including providing complete motors as an OEM for several other makers, not all such arrangements necessarily 'transparent'...

    ...and did LATER have an association-of-record with Crossley. That could point to the valves being assembled from diverse parts - perhaps even surplus spares - not uncommon in the Great War that had just ended, the farming-out of bits of kit to whomever could make or duplicate them, and comparably confusing aftermath as the war wound-down.

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    I have one just like those except it isn't stamped "made in USA"...half inch pipe thread.

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    Do you need more, trying to file a warranty claim..?

    Or just curious?

    I suspect some library has wholesale/retail catalogs of that era.

    Historic Catalogs of Sears, Roebuck and Co., 1896-1993 - Ancestry.com

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    Hello, never mind the tap, what about a picture of the beautiful engine !!.

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    I'm wondering if that might be a Stockham valve. Still in business.

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    Thank you all for your detailed response(s) on this thread sofar.

    I will take some time to study the tips and ideas of finding the possible manufacturer name. It's just curiosity; of a few parts I want to trace some more historical information. When polishing the four taps (which took me a while..) the logo made me inquisitive.

    I'm also pleased with your "engine compliments". If you like I can post a few photo's of the beauty and tell a little about the restauration project we are in at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wim Stuut View Post
    If you like I can post a few photo's of the beauty and tell a little about the restauration project we are in at the moment.
    Yes please!

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