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    Quote Originally Posted by csharp View Post
    I believe the entire VAR/Reseller model will eventually collapse under subscription. Just not enough meat left on the bone, and shareholder like to eat.
    You certainly have a knack for understanding an issue. Honestly, I am a little surprised that this has not happened already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahnrad Kopf View Post
    You certainly have a knack for understanding an issue. Honestly, I am a little surprised that this has not happened already.
    I think it is starting. I have heard some reseller complaining about an ADSK employee putting out there they are going to offer free training to get new users up to speed. The var was not really happy. Look at the amount of free videos and training, fast track program etc..... who needs a VAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csharp View Post
    I think it is starting. I have heard some reseller complaining about an ADSK employee putting out there they are going to offer free training to get new users up to speed. The var was not really happy. Look at the amount of free videos and training, fast track program etc..... who needs a VAR.
    LMAO. Actually, what I had typed and what is now there are two different things. Same basic result of idea being conveyed, but my auto-correct changed what I wrote.

    What I originally wrote was, "You certainly have a knack for understating an issue."

    Hence, my surprise at what you theorize. Hahaha.

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    This is definitely an interesting thread and I hope someone at Autodesk/HSMworks is monitoring it and taking in the feedback. We had/have the same concerns about HSMworks that many have posted, but ended up switching to HSMworks from Hypermill for Solidworks a few months ago after a very thorough evaluation of the competing options. We only do 3 axis work, and were looking for something with better Solidworks integration and a easier learning curve than Hypermill. For our needs, HSMworks beat everything else hands down, so in spite of our concerns about Autodesk ownership, we went ahead with the switch. So far we are still happy with that decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grk3010 View Post
    n and a easier learning curve than Hypermill.
    Didn't think you could get much easier than Hypermill??

    Used many CAM systems over the years and have to say Hypermill was as easy as they come from what I have used.

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    From info I have gathered, CamWorks is no longer selling their 2.5D software because Solidworks has purchased it...
    Solidworks offers a free version in 2018 which is basic w/ no Volumill. They offer a paid version - like $2400 plus $600 a year in maintenance. It's only 2.5D but has Volumill. It will do a lot of what I need, but it's just not quite right for me as I'd like 3D capability, and 4th axis capability.

    I just got an interesting email from my VAR on HSMWorks - apparently their 5-axis software is now in the same bundle, and a multi-user license is at $3,200 subscription per year for the "design and manufacturing collection" or $2460/year per seat.

    Nothing has changed price-wise for perpetual users as of yet. I have asked what kind of incentive I can get from them like possibly a free year subscription, etc - something other than a slap in the dick for dumping and going to subscription.

    Unfortunately I haven't found anything yet that I like enough to change....as much as I hate to, I think I have to stick with HSM for now.

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    We bought HSMworks for the full price in 2015. They kept promising they
    would improve turning but as far as I can see there are only some very
    obvious bugs fixed that caused corrupt G code that crashes the tool into
    the product. Still no turning cycles they promised us. It appears they did
    not think well enough about the ability to have things like roughing and finishing
    in cycles in their kernel and that makes it very hard for them to implement this
    basic functionality that most other Cad systems do have.

    So we bought Solidcam turning/mill and have never looked back, it just works.

    I like the offer of HSMworks 5 axis milling in the bundle so that is one reason to
    go to subscription but I would first wait 2 years to find out if they really
    improve the functionality. For us it seems like there is few or no real improvement
    apart from bug fixes in HSMworks.

    In Solidcam we do see improvement that makes sense on the workfloor.
    It generates good Gcode with cycles that is easy editable on the
    workfloor which is necessary for tweaking things fast with instable shafts
    and different materials. We need to change the contour often for correcting
    some bending in the shaft and that was a terrible timeconsuming job in HSMworks.
    We now have easy editable code of 100 lines that was easy 2000 lines of uneditable
    code in HSMworks


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