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Old 10-30-2009, 05:01 AM
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Default Atlantic (van norman ) 1RQ mill on ebay

I was stumbling around Ebay and saw this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_2620wt_941

I thought it looked like a Van Norman so I did a little reasearch. I was supprised to see that it was (sort of)... We don't see many machines with a quill for sale.
if I was closed I'd have it, but it's 3000 miles away :-((

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Old 10-30-2009, 07:10 AM
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That seller is dreaming at $3,800. It'd be a nice buy at about half that.

Just for reference, here's some nice shots of a sparkly 1RQ:

http://www.toolbit.net/vn/
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:03 PM
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Kind of interesting. Though the quill in the second link looks kind of whimpy even compared to a bridgeport quill unless its a lot bigger than it appears in the picture.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:09 PM
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Though the quill in the second link looks kind of whimpy even compared to a bridgeport quill unless its a lot bigger than it appears in the picture.
Did you mean on the eBay one, or the link I put? In the link I put, what you're seeing is a tool holder of some sort, not the quill. The quill is 3.5" diameter. (I have a VN 16S, which has the same spindle head as the 1RQ, which is how I know)
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Old 10-31-2009, 04:38 AM
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Huh, I've never seen an Ex-Cell-O badged Van Norman. Didn't know such a thing existed.
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:19 AM
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Huh, I've never seen an Ex-Cell-O badged Van Norman. Didn't know such a thing existed.
Andy

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Is this perhaps a post-'81 machine? Did ExCello take over the VN milling machine production where as Winona took over the VN automotive machines? Or were there a bunch of unsold built VN's that Excello bought at a going-out-of-business sale and just slapped their name on?


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Old 10-31-2009, 09:19 AM
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The serial # on the dataplate ends in 77, which probably indicates 1977. My 2G ends in 68, pretty sure that's year of production on it.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:25 AM
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Here is a quote from the RPI website:

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We are the OEM supplier of parts and accessories for the Van Norman Milling Machines and the Atlantic Jig Bore. These machine tool lines were acquired from the Atlantic division of Excell-o Corp. We are not currently manufacturing machines, but can supply parts for your existing machines.
http://www.repair-parts-inc.com/about.htm

That should narrow down the timeframe for this machine.

I was just on their site to see about some replacement parts to get mine fixed up.
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:04 PM
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Default Price dropped, but look at the Bridgeports

Any idea what a reasonable price for this mill would be? Its only 300 miles from me, and might suit me well (first mill purchase). Price has dropped $600 now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Atlantic-1RQ-22-...#ht_2585wt_941

But, the seller's prices on two Bridgeports look absolutely insane. There was a recent Sandia surplus auction in Albuquerque with about a dozen mills for sale -- I thought they went high at ~$2000 a piece!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bridgeport-Serie...ht_7543wt_1032

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bridgeport-Serie...item518fcb4b39
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:42 PM
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No arbor support, vise or tooling of any type with that VN. If he'll mark it down about $2300 more, it'll be getting into tempting territory, but he's smoking crack if he thinks he'll get $3200 for it. Same on the Bports, I think he's asking about three times what he'll ever get for them.
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