I'd like some help please.

When the time comes, I've first refusal on one close to me, I'd say by looks it 40's, very clean not butchered and with a shed full of bells and whistles, had a quick look about but he's a funny old guy, like you gotta know which way the winds blowing, and it wasn't the right day to poke around too much so couldn't find the ser#.

So, I know it's about 1200 rpm, and the vertical knuckle head is 30taper quick release (cam type) have they any hidden weaknesses, nasties anything I should look out for? ooooh an idea of the weight will be very useful.

FWIW we haven't talked money, nor will we until the time comes, so value isn't really an issue ............ we go back a bit, so know each other well enough to know that I will pay fairly what it's worth to me.

Thanks. Sami.

Omnimill or Omniversal?

John Oder

OOOPS, you've got me there John,.......sorry I thought they were Omnimills so didn't look, I'll have to get back to you on that.

Thanks.

Here's an Omnimill !



And here's what I suspect you really want...

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/omniversal.jpg

Thank you Milacron, you're right it's an Omniversal, as in the link...... yup one of those #0

P.S. I tried changing the thread title but seem to be locked out, can it be changed?

Have you clicked the "advanced edit" thingie ? If you did and it still didn't work, then there must be a time limit to edit the titles which has been exceeded. But you can edit titles as I just edited one myself today and it worked...but I did it within a couple of minutes of posting.

That is a cool machine! I've never seen an Omniversal. If you don't mind me asking, how much would something like that go for in the UK? Do such machines hold value a little better than they do here in the states? I'm no expert, but it seems as though a machine like that could be had for peanuts or could go for a hefty sum (here in the states). Do you find the same thing in UK?

Price? I really don't know the market value, but like the US, oddball machine values can be a lottery.

AFAIK Omniversals are exceedingly rare over here, though others may say otherwise, ....... probaly because being closer to Europe we had Deckels & Thiels etc.

An old boss and mentor told me about them over 30years ago but this is the first I've seen in the flesh and it's less than 10 miles away literally in the middle of no-where.

I know it came from a Brit Government aircraft research establishment where it had done sweet FA, to it's present owner ages ago.
A lot of the accessories were still in their original heavy grease packing and the guy mothballed and stored it properly until his semi retirement, when he installed and set it up to use on his retirement project.

I'm fortunate in as much as the guy as I said is a bit of an oddball, (Well that's putting it mildly very private and exceedingly cynical, as well an amazing machinist and engineer and definitely not driven by money, ..............you could show up with a bankfull of cash and be told your fortune very quickly.

As I said, we get on, in a strange way! and his main concern is it will go to a good home.

Loaned out a new crisp and mint manual on this ages ago and was later told it was "lost" - if I recall, this was on the very early yahoo Hendey group.

At any rate, my impression was that B&S had gone to great lengths to show fanciful set ups possible on this machine - several of which in my opinion were fairly far fetched.

Wonder if any of them got used much.

John Oder

This one used to belong to me and is now for sale by the present owner.
It is fited with an Ajax V/head as well as the original universal head.
The weight is aprox 35 cwt imperial. The only faults I could find with this type of mill was that the dc feed motor controller was not very good but modern controls would solve that. Apart from that a top class machine. The present owner also has another with a Deckel high speed head and a dc motor fitted to raise and lower the table.



MBB

Have a lot of new in the wax cam-lock endmills for that machine..#10/#20/#30 ..IF you buy the mill ..you'll need em'
They are quite a machine..
Some what like the Swiss "Acirea Mills "
Regards
Robbie

Not really.

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[Some what like the Swiss "Acirea Mills "]

Of course they are they both use endmills.
MBB

Hi Robbie, I am in Los Banos, California and have a 0 Mill. If you still have the cam-locks,let me know what you have and $ for them.
Bruce Vogt

Robbie, I am anxious to hear from you re the camlocks. I have some but would like to have more.
Bruce-------------b1vogt@aol.com

So, Limy S, don't know about others but I'm dying to know if you're any closer to having closed the deal?

In the shop of my dreams I'd very much like to have an Omniversal (more highly universal head) as well as a Deckel/Maho (more highly universal table) - it would be so interesting working out which jobs to put on which one...

[QUOTE=Troup;1212253]So, Limy S, don't know about others but I'm dying to know if you're any closer to having closed the deal? QUOTE]



No not yet, and hopefully it's a good way off, as it's currently being used to help build this.

http://modelengineeringwebsite.com/Napier_Dagger.html

Found these online. Anyone here have an Omniversal with the vertical head ?

I think the vertical head shown was standard with the machine. But some folks have modified their Omniversal to accept a "better" vertical head, like the Bridgeport style heads.

Copious dope slaps to the nitwit who painted that one with that disgusting metalic blue paint

I used to covet an Omniveral...until I discovered Deckels and Maho's.

COVET an Omniversal- well COVET no more, you're flush with cash since you sold JUST a drill press recently for what you could buy an Omniversal for. Mines even a respectable shade of grey. I USED to covet them too, but now that I've had one, and NEVER use it, someone else can store it for awhile.Comes with the groovy universal head, which YES is on all the Omniversals. I can't imagine a nicer Omniversal anywhere in the world. You know it, came from the University of Michigan.