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Raybmarlow · Apr 16, 2016

Just saved this 16 from being destroyed , am quite thrilled to have brought it home , will be in need of a couple collets and or shell mill holders ... Anything advise ?

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Ohio Mike · Apr 16, 2016

Looks like a real nice machine. Is that factory paint?

Raybmarlow · Apr 16, 2016

Yes it is , I couldn't let it go yo crusher ...

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Raybmarlow · Apr 16, 2016

Have go research S/N to find out era of machine, but is in nice shape, a lot of scrape still showing

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Ohio Mike · Apr 17, 2016

That would probably clean up nice if the stains bother you. Power Purple works pretty good or if you really want get medieval on it go to Home Depot and buy some ZEP floor stripper. Work small areas, both will strip paint when left to do its thing.

Mike C. · Apr 17, 2016

Nice machine! Only source of collets and other tooling is ebay now. You got the horizontal arbors and arbor support... that's the hard stuff to find. Shell mill arbors, slitting saw, endmill holders, etc... can be machined from cheap R-8 tooling pretty easily. Just have a handful to do while your lathe is set up and round up a woodruff cutter to cut the keyway on the face. You need to make an R-8 style drawbar and you'll need a bushing to go in the top of the spindle to hold the drawbar, but that's no big deal.

C_Stebbins · Apr 17, 2016

What's the back story on it heading for the scrapper. Glad you got it.

Raybmarlow · Apr 26, 2016

She cleaned up really nice using good old Zep products!! Remove all electric's and replaced with VFD's primarily for phase conversion and it runs nice, already started machining R8 holders to fit it, I'll fluid replaced and made my first cuts this weekend runs perfect. Previous owner tried to sell it and couldn't four months, obviously people were scared of the collet situation.

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Raybmarlow · Apr 26, 2016

Turning down some tooling for it

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JMG · Apr 26, 2016

Raybmarlow, Turning looking good. I assume you are using carbide. What brand R8 did you start with?
John

Raybmarlow · Apr 26, 2016

To be honest, I have no idea what brand they are but PCD to turn

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Mike C. · Apr 27, 2016

I found absolutely none of the R-8 tooling I modified to be hardened. Cut just as easily with HSS as with carbide. Collets probably are, but the shanks on the endmill holders, slitting saw arbors and such were not hard at all.

sealark37 · Apr 27, 2016

Ah, the elusive outboard support!!! Check Tools4Cheap for a set of 5V end mill holders. Nice Machine. Regards, Clark

Raybmarlow · Apr 27, 2016

Toolsforcheap not around anymore from what I've found, and the 5V don't fit this , I bought a set because that's what everyone said,,,, wrong .....

The R8 I'm modifying has been case hardened at all different thickness...

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Michael Edwards · Apr 28, 2016

Raybmarlow said:
Yes it is , I couldn't let it go yo crusher ...

I can see why. Nice save.

ME

Mike C. · Apr 28, 2016

"the 5V don't fit this , I bought a set because that's what everyone said,,,, wrong ....."

Say what? What taper are you making, then?

Raybmarlow · Apr 28, 2016

It's a "c " taper as its called , not the same as the 5v or #2

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Raybmarlow · Apr 28, 2016

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sfriedberg · Apr 28, 2016

The VN "C" collet is also known as the Hardinge 5V collet.

The VN "2" collet is also known as the Hardinge 50V collet.

The "C" (aka 5V) is smaller than the "2" (aka 50V).

Mike C. · Apr 28, 2016

What was the issue with the 5V? A Hardinge 5V should be identical to a Van Norman C.

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