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Akira Seiki V-2 Meldas 50m control need parameters.

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Hi All,

I have contacted Akira Seiki and they just will not respond at all. Battery went dead and of course lost all the parameters. If someone could help I have the procedure from Mitsubishi on how to load the parameters. I have a lot of procedures if you need any.

Thanks
Anthony
 
akira seiki performa v 2

Hi All,

I have contacted Akira Seiki and they just will not respond at all. Battery went dead and of course lost all the parameters. If someone could help I have the procedure from Mitsubishi on how to load the parameters. I have a lot of procedures if you need any.

Thanks
Anthony

Anthony were you able to sort out problem.

We just bought a similar machine akira seiki performa V2 .2000 model with meldas 500.

Same problem has occurred to us all our parameters lost due to Dead battery.

we have input few parameters manually .

But we are still facing problem as the machine is showing emergency alarm and not working.



Can you help us out in this matter.

Regards
RK
 
Check this thread out guys, mine was also on an Akira, just a SR3 with 60M controller. Vanc seriously helped me out big time! The akira guys here knew less than him to be honest and I didn't want to risk the cash to fly a tech to me and not get results so I struggled through it. It is so weird that I am in the economic hub and their damn service guys are nearly the other side of the country.

Maybe you guys are lucky and the parameters are hard printed as a program on the control and you can work with that. I also tried Akira directly without any response http://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...arameters-346194/?highlight=meldas+parameters
 
Hi All,

I have contacted Akira Seiki and they just will not respond at all. Battery went dead and of course lost all the parameters. If someone could help I have the procedure from Mitsubishi on how to load the parameters. I have a lot of procedures if you need any.

Thanks
Anthony

Have you had any luck finding a parameter list for your machine? It will be a hugely difficult job to figure out from scratch what they should be. Probably too time consuming to make it worthwhile doing.

Anthony were you able to sort out problem.

We just bought a similar machine akira seiki performa V2 .2000 model with meldas 500.

Same problem has occurred to us all our parameters lost due to Dead battery.

we have input few parameters manually .

But we are still facing problem as the machine is showing emergency alarm and not working.



Can you help us out in this matter.

Regards
RK

You will need to get all the parameters loaded before trying to troubleshoot the emergency stop condition.
 
Good day;

Here is the instruction to upload the parameters for M60 control

I. Restart procedure when backed up data is available
RAM Clear:
• Control power off and emergency stop switch in
• Rotary switch to 7 (seven)
Note: Rotary switch is located on the CPU card (HR113 or HR114)
• Turn the power on
• Wait until the seven segment LED displays the letter F (finished)
• Turn on the power back off
• Set the rotary switch to 1 (one) which turns off the PLC
• Turn on the power
Set language parameter if display is Japanese (to view in English):
• Set parameter #1043 from 0 to 1
• Press Tool/Param key
• Press soft key (below LCD) 2nd from right (MENU)
• Press 3rd from right soft key (Setup)
• Press ‘Y’ (Shift Y)
• Press Input
• Press right arrow soft key to change page and display param 1043
• Change to ‘1’ and cycle power
Data Input:
• Refer to Appendix A for the DATA I/O communication parameters
• Go to the Setup parameter page
• Key in Y for Yes to access
• Go to Parameter 1060
• Key <64> in (Data), key <S> in the next bracket, press <input> twice
• Go to the Data Input menu
• Key in 99 into the # brackets and press <input>
• Go to the PC and send the ALL1 data saved from this control
• Recycle the power
Format Memory:
• Go to the Setup parameter page
• Key in Y for Yes to access
• Go to Parameter 1060
• Key in 1 and press <input>
• Question arrives “Do you want to install a set of default parameters”
• Answer is NO, because you just loaded in parameters specific to your machine
• Key in N for No and press <input>.
• Question Arrives “Do you want to format the control”
• Answer is YES, this is why we are here
• Key in Y for Yes and press <input>.
• After two seconds the message appears informing the task is complete
Data Input (cont):
• Go to the Data Input menu
• Key in 99 into the # brackets and press <input>
• Go to the PC and send the ALL2 data saved from this control
• If HR113/HR114 has been replaced, key in 99 into the # brackets and press <input>. Go to
the PC and send the ALL3 data saved from this control
• Power down
• Set the rotary switch to 0 (zero)
• Power on
With caution, operate the axes in jog or handle, operate the tool changer / turret, perform M, S,
and T codes verifying all operations. Note any occurrences if it’s encountered.
All systems should be ready to go, verify all the offset values are correct and the part programs
have been reentered.
V. UPDATE LADDER (PLC) S/W USING RS-232
• Refer to Appendix A for the DATA I/O communication parameters
• Set the Rotary Switch to a one (1) on the CNC
• Power On
• Set the Data I/O parameters accordingly and make sure the Port connection is #2
• Get the 99 ALL file ready, and input the (99) (250) on the CNC’s DATA INPUT page and press
< INPUT > then start the PC to send the file
• Power off the NC
• Set rotary switch back to original
• Power on and confirm new S/W version
VI. REPLACING X & Z AXIS SERVO DRIVES – MDS-B-SVJ2-20
IX. Appendix A
RS-232 Setup and Configuration
• Verify the Edit Locks are off
• Check or Set parameter #1121 edlk_c = 0
• Check or Set parameter #1122 pglk_c = 0
Key sequence: [Tool/Param] [MENU] [SETUP] Set “Y”  <NEXT PAGE> 4 times
• Check or Set parameter #8105 edit lock B = 1
Key sequence: [Tool/Param] [MENU] [PROCESS] <NEXT PAGE> 2 times
• It’s also possible to turn off the Edit locks by forcing the Y addressing to a 1 (one)
• data protect key 1:Y238=1 (1=protect cancel)
• data protect key 2:Y239=1 (1=protect cancel)
• data protect key 3:Y23A=1 (1=protect cancel)
• Set the parameters for the RS-232 communication
• Press the [TOOL/PARAMETER] button
• Press the [MENU] soft menu
• Press the [I/O PAR] soft menu
• On the first page set Input to Port 2 and Device to 0 (zero)
• Go to the next page (Device 0) and enter the appropriate values.
• #9101 Device name, not required and is set 3 alpha/ numeric characters
• #9102 Baud rate 1=9600 / 2=4800
• #9103 Stop Bits 1=1 / 2=1.5 / 3=2
• #9106 Character length 2=7 / 3=8 bits
• #9111 Handshake 1=hardware control / 3=software control (Xon / Xoff)
• Illustration given when using RS-232 with ProComm software:
NC side PC side Description
#9101 : PC n/a Name
#9102 : 1 9600 Baud Rate
#9103 : 3 2 Stop Bits
#9104 : 0 EVEN Parity
#9106 : 3 7 Character Length
#9108 : 3 Xon/ Xoff Handshaking
#9109 : 1 n/a DC Code Parity (NC side)
#9112 : 1 n/a Carriage Return
Note: Parameters not referenced are generally 0 (zero)
• Cable configuration handshaking for:
Xon/ Xoff or S/W H/W
NC PC Signal
(25 pin) (9 pin) Name
2 2 RD
3 3 SD
20 4 ER
6 6 DR
7 5 SG
4 7 RS
5 8 CS
NC Side PC Side
(25 pin) (9 pin)
2 2
3 3
20 4
6 6
7 5
4 7
5 8
X. Appendix B
To save data so you can resurrect control after reinitialization:
• Stop PLC
• Go to Data I/O page
• Back up: #(99) data (ALL1) and save file as ALL1.txt
• Back up: #(99) data (ALL2) and save file as ALL2.txt
• Back up: #(99) data (ALL3) and save file as ALL3.txt
• Now save parameter data in ASCII format so it can be viewed with parameter viewer
program at a later time:
• Back up: #(3) data (ALL) and save file as NCPAR.txt
• Once all data is saved control can be reinitialized
• SRAM Back Up data contents and locations
ALL 1 Data Output
No. Data Details
100 System Common Parameters
102 Axis Independent Parameters
103 Machine Error Offset Data, Offset Amount
105 PLC Constants, Work Counter (R2800~2899)
106 PLC Timer
107 PLC Timer
108 Bit Selection Parameter (R2900~2947)
109 (not used)
110 Work Offset
111 Registers (R2950~3639)
112 R Register User Backup (R1900~2799)
113 PLC Latch Relay
114 PLC Switch
115 Program Numbers
116 Timer Cumulative Output
117 Counter Cumulative Output
130 Tool Life Management (R3000~3639)
133 Position Switch
134 PLC Timer Cumulative Current Value
135 PLC Counter Cumulative Current Value
136 R Register System Backup (R1880~1899)
138 Tool Life Management II (R5480~6279)
140 Spindle Parameters
141 Communication Parameters
142 Common Variable Name
150 Data History (Operation History)
152 Special Process Backup
ALL 2 Data Output
No. Data Details
200 Tool Length Offset (shape) Tool Offset (X shape)
201 Tool Length Offset (wear) Tool Offset (X wear)
202 Tool Diameter Offset (shape) Tool Offset (Z shape)
203 Tool Diameter Offset (wear) Tool Offset (Z wear)
204 Tool Offset (Y shape)
205 Tool Life Tool Offset (Y wear)
206 Nose R (shape)
207 Nose R (wear)
208 Nose Point No. Data
209 Common Variables for Both (#500~ )
210 Common Variable Valid Flags for Both (#500~ )
230 Common Variables Independent for System (#100~ )
231 Common Variable Valid Flags Independent for System
(#100~)
ALL 3 Data Output
No. Data Details
250 Ladder
270 Ladder Messages
Data Settings
Machining programs #( 1 ) data ( ALL)
Tool Data #( 2 ) data ( ALL)
Parameters #( 3 ) data ( ALL)
Common variable #( 5 ) data ( ALL)
R register (R2950 ~ R3639) #( 99 ) data ( 111)
R register (R1900 ~ R2799) #( 99 ) data ( 112)
R resister (R1880 ~ R1899) #( 99 ) data ( 136)
Sequence program #( 99 ) data ( 250)
External alarm message #( 99 ) data ( 270)
Data is in
Binary format
 








 
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