Brand of swiss made tilting head mill turn CNC machine

dksoba · Feb 12, 2015

I went to MDM and I saw this pretty neat 5 axis machine with a tilting head. The part would sit in a barfed collet on the left side of the machine. As configured at the show, the machine had a list price of around $500k according to the salesman. I want to google them but unfortunately I can't recall the name. I do remember it began with a W though. I had never heard of them before.

This might be a hopeless pursuit. Anyone?

james siffel · Feb 12, 2015

Willemin ?

grbl · Feb 12, 2015

"barfed"

TeachMePlease · Feb 12, 2015

Well, from googling "Swiss Made Machine Tools" and finding This Site and then checking their members list, I might guess it's Willomen-Macodel?

dksoba · Feb 12, 2015

TeachMePlease said:
Well, from googling "Swiss Made Machine Tools" and finding This Site and then checking their members list, I might guess it's Willomen-Macodel?

Yes, I think so. That was a good approach. I typed "swiss cnc machines" into google...

Here's kind of what they had at the show:

Edit: Thanks, btw. Really appreciate it.

Matt

2outof3 · Feb 12, 2015

dksoba said:
Yes, I think so. That was a good approach. I typed "swiss cnc machines" into google...

Here's kind of what they had at the show:

Edit: Thanks, btw. Really appreciate it.

Matt

Matt,

I am sure it was the Willemin. They have been around for a long time. Bar fed with a pick off spindle to do all sides. The A axis can turn. High speed spindle with not much torque but for the right parts, very productive.

jid2 · Feb 12, 2015

whats the benefit of this layout over a Mori NTX or Mazak Integrix?

dstryr · Feb 12, 2015

jid2 said:
whats the benefit of this layout over a Mori NTX or Mazak Integrix?

Cycle time on small parts. A shop near me has a bunch. They do a ton of very small medical parts.

B axis lathes are slow........ ever see one do a chip to chip with a milling tool?

Jashley73 · Feb 12, 2015

Not to hijack, but this was probably one of the most badass machines I saw at IMTS this year. Index twin spindle, twin B-axis machine. Very cool... BTW, where are Index-Traub machines made?

2outof3 · Feb 12, 2015

jid2 said:
whats the benefit of this layout over a Mori NTX or Mazak Integrix?

It is a much older design. I went through the factory 15 years ago. The Mori and Integrix were not in production when this was designed. The Chiron FZ08 tilting machine was designed in reaction to the Willemin.

These are really for small parts where milling is over 70% of cycle. JMO

xlr8tr · Feb 13, 2015

Bumotec are also Swiss and have a similar machine

dksoba · Feb 13, 2015

These are all damn cool machines IMHO. If I put my mind to it, maybe I can conjure up the right customers that will be willing to purchase the parts I could make with this machine. Still probably a long way away.

2outof3 · Feb 13, 2015

dksoba said:
These are all damn cool machines IMHO. If I put my mind to it, maybe I can conjure up the right customers that will be willing to purchase the parts I could make with this machine. Still probably a long way away.

Unless you are making high quantities of bar feed parts, a Brother M140X1 or similar machine would do mostly what these will do at about a 1/3 the cost.

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