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Disable 4th and 5th axis - I80 Control
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DavidScott
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Good question Rob, I have the same need for a 4th on my i80 controlled Kitamura. If you find the answer other than here please post it.
Thanks,
David
Thanks,
David
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DavidScott
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You can get all the manuals directly from Yaskawa's web site. I have yet to find the answer there myself, information overload.
hi , thanks for the reply's
yes i got the manuals from yaskawa website. but not too clear how to just turn off an axis i have yet to read over it properly tho
and right now i'm waiting for the machine manuals to come to us to see if there is any extra info there.
i have also asked matsuura but they don't really seem to worried due to the machine age i kinda get the feeling. probably have to find an older guy in the support area i guess
if i do find out answer i will post it no problem..
yes i got the manuals from yaskawa website. but not too clear how to just turn off an axis i have yet to read over it properly tho
and right now i'm waiting for the machine manuals to come to us to see if there is any extra info there.
i have also asked matsuura but they don't really seem to worried due to the machine age i kinda get the feeling. probably have to find an older guy in the support area i guess
if i do find out answer i will post it no problem..
Pipes
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Set parameter 6006 bit 4 (5th axis) and bit 3 (4th axis) to 0. Always write down the state of the parameter before you make your change.
DavidScott
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I still get a servo alarm after setting parameter 6006 bit 3 to 0. Any other advise?
Pipes
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Did you set the 4th bit from the right?
DavidScott
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Yes, I looked it up in the Yasnac list of parameters, and compared the original paramaters that came with the machine against the ones in it now. I also went in to Run, Settings, and set it to ignore the 4th axis. Not sure this matters but the 4th was installed in the field, it was not sold with it from Kitamura. Because of this they will not help.
Also bits 0, 1, and 2 were all set to 0. The only bit set to 1 in 6006 was bit 3.
Also bits 0, 1, and 2 were all set to 0. The only bit set to 1 in 6006 was bit 3.
Pipes
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Did you try calling Yaskawa?
If bits 0,1,2 were 0 then it may be a 1 turns it off and it was off on the NC side, the documentation was buggered on this parameter so it's hard to tell which state is "detached". If that is the case then it may be a ladder controlled axis on your machine, If it is ladder controlled then it will most likely be shut off with an option parameter. Try scanning the ladder for the 4th axis alarm you are seeing to determine if there is an option parameter in the logic.
If bits 0,1,2 were 0 then it may be a 1 turns it off and it was off on the NC side, the documentation was buggered on this parameter so it's hard to tell which state is "detached". If that is the case then it may be a ladder controlled axis on your machine, If it is ladder controlled then it will most likely be shut off with an option parameter. Try scanning the ladder for the 4th axis alarm you are seeing to determine if there is an option parameter in the logic.
DavidScott
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As I understand it 0 is disabled. It has been working fine, I just can't unplug it to remove it from the machine. I will look for an alarm in the ladder the next time I turn it on. I haven't called Yaskawa on this yet, but will be talking with them soon about something else and will ask about this then. I will update this thread as I learn new information.
Thank you for your help-
David
Thank you for your help-
David
Pipes
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That would seem to mean the X,Y and Z axis are disabled.
Are you referencing the TOE-C843-11.31E manual for the parameter definitions? Page 298 of that manual indicates that a 0 and a 1 indicate the axis is detached.
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Did you check for a switch in the cabinet to disable the axis?
There are inputs, 3083#4 and 3083#3, that are scanned on power up when found closed supposedly disables the axis. See parameter 3#1 and 3#2,
There are inputs, 3083#4 and 3083#3, that are scanned on power up when found closed supposedly disables the axis. See parameter 3#1 and 3#2,
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DavidScott
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Yes I was referencing page 298 of the Yasnac parameter manual you show. I did check the cabinet for a switch but see nothing. I followed the cables from the 4th to the drive. I haven't opened the box yet where the 4th axis cables connect to the machine on top of the machine to check there.
I forgot about the dummy plugs. I don't have them and doubt they were ever made. Is there any chance of removing the 4th without the dummy plugs?
I forgot about the dummy plugs. I don't have them and doubt they were ever made. Is there any chance of removing the 4th without the dummy plugs?
Good Day
Have a Kita with I80 , and hoping to to the reverse of that you're doing. Would it be possible to obtain the parameters from the I80 controller to compare?
Kind regards
Peter
