Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 22
  1. #1
    John Deere is offline Aluminum
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    The South
    Posts
    143

    Default Face Mill Rrecommendations for Aluminum

    Gentle readers, I'm in need of about a 4" face mill for use in aluminum. Good looking surface finish will be important, big time material removal will not.

    What should I be looking for? Will round inserts be the way to go?

  2. #2
    ewlsey is offline Diamond
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Peoria, IL
    Posts
    4,697

    Default

    Don't over think it.

    A 45 degree lead with square (SEHT or similar) inserts leave a great finish. We use Sumitomo WEX face and end mills. No complaints.

  3. #3
    toolsrul is offline Aluminum
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    nc
    Posts
    203

    Default face mill

    Mitsubishi has probably some of the best face mills & grades out there - ASX445, AXD4000, AXD7000 & more. Call cust. svc 800-523-0800 to find out who's your rep.

  4. #4
    GBeaman is offline Cast Iron
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Marble Falls, TX
    Posts
    484

    Default

    Holy Cow! Two responses in and nobody has mentioned Ex Kenna's ripper mill???
    Well lets get that out of the way! 4inch ripper mill with polished aluminum specific inserts kick ass! I have 3 inch for plowing. Then amazingly after moving cubes of material it leaves a great finish. I am sure the above responses are good ones, but if you wanted to stereotype the forum you would have a fair bet that aluminum is being moved with Kurtis' (exkenna) ripper mill run on a mari tool holder, in none other then a sharp SV 2412 VMC.

    Good night all!

  5. #5
    Mud's Avatar
    Mud
    Mud is offline Diamond
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    South Central PA
    Posts
    10,563

    Default

    Iscar E90AL series cutters with IC28 APCR inserts, either 16 or 22 mm. Great finish, work to a 90° shoulder, lots of sizes, excellent for roughing too. (A lot like a ripper mill)

  6. #6
    Lucky 13 is offline Aluminum
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Grass Pants, Orygun
    Posts
    55

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by toolsrul View Post
    Mitsubishi has probably some of the best face mills & grades out there - ASX445, AXD4000, AXD7000 & more. Call cust. svc 800-523-0800 to find out who's your rep.
    X2. We've been using the ASX445 2.00" 4 insert cutter with SEGT inserts with the JP chip breaker for about 5 years now with awesome results, at times .250" deep at 50 IPM.

  7. #7
    Mud's Avatar
    Mud
    Mud is offline Diamond
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    South Central PA
    Posts
    10,563

    Default

    Here's a 2 flute 2" cutter .250 deep at 150 ipm.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6RBOnjbBY

  8. #8
    exkenna's Avatar
    exkenna is offline Stainless
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    North Alabama
    Posts
    1,215

    Default

    The Ripper Mill kits are on sale (free inserts).
    Whoop! Whoop!



  9. #9
    exkenna's Avatar
    exkenna is offline Stainless
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    North Alabama
    Posts
    1,215

    Default

    Sorry, forgot to re-size pics.

  10. #10
    wrustle is offline Titanium
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    2,582

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by exkenna View Post
    The Ripper Mill kits are on sale (free inserts).
    Whoop! Whoop!

    Hi Curtis, PM sent.

    Best Regards,
    Russ

  11. #11
    aerodark's Avatar
    aerodark is offline Titanium
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Kirkland, WA USA
    Posts
    2,213

    Default Just for s#!ts and giggles....

    .........what is the cost of the unit pictured? Without taper of course.

  12. #12
    fpworks is offline Hot Rolled
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    FL
    Posts
    957

    Default

    Here is the 2" Mitsubishi BXD:

    YouTube - ‪Fore Precision Works IRS Diff cover‬‏

    The full slotting cut on the outside was full width, 0.2" DOC, and 200ipm. The next cut was dynamic facing at 40% stepover and 600 ipm. Nice and smooth...no drama.

    IMO, exkenna's Ripper runs a little smoother than the BXD

  13. #13
    charlie gary's Avatar
    charlie gary is offline Hot Rolled
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    near Seattle, Washington, USA
    Posts
    847

    Default

    Miltec makes a 4" face mill that does a really nice job.
    MIL-TECŪ Milling Technology

  14. #14
    Rex TX is offline Stainless
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Posts
    1,651

    Default me too

    I have exactly the same issue - surface milling 4" wide aluminum with good finish. We are getting ripples currently, and the unit we are using uses inserts we can't identify.

    We have to cover a 4" in one pass, so I' will need 4.5-5" head with appropriate inserts. Most of the above is Greek to me. That Ripper thing sounds interesting, but I was unable to find a site.

  15. #15
    behindpropellers is offline Stainless
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    NE OHIO
    Posts
    1,285

    Default

    Here is the link:

    RIPPER MILL

  16. #16
    Rex TX is offline Stainless
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Fort Worth, Texas
    Posts
    1,651

    Default

    Thanks for the link. 2" max won't work for me.
    I like that vendor though, bookmarked for next order.

  17. #17
    kb0thn is offline Cast Iron
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Winona, MN, USA
    Posts
    279

    Default

    We bought a Maritool 90 degree rectangular insert face mill for facing thousands of glass filled nylon parts. After that job was done, I have been using it for aluminum and it makes a pretty finish. I'm no expert on this, but I thought I would toss Maritool's hat in the ring.

    Indexable Tooling - MariTool

    -Jim

  18. #18
    Ox's Avatar
    Ox
    Ox is online now Diamond
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    West Unity, Ohio
    Posts
    17,624

    Default

    A) I like the 45* mills a lot. They leave super finishes, but you kant go to a shoulder. They are for full decking only.

    B) Ex-Kenna's tool looks exactly like a Mitsubishi - no?

    C) Mits tooling for the units like Kennas pic is on back-order currently doo to the quake. (not that it has enything to doo with Ex-Kennas supply chain. I am talking about Mits in particular.

    We have one job where we use the Mits like above, simply b/c of the small corner tip. Makes it a low feed/Ra tool, but we have a non-rigid part ap, and the Kennametal like it had too much wiper (?) and created too much chatter/bad finish. Went back to the Mits - as much as I hate the import...


    --------------

    Think Snow Eh!
    Ox

  19. #19
    JMC
    JMC is offline Cast Iron
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Northern Utah
    Posts
    316

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex TX View Post
    Thanks for the link. 2" max won't work for me.
    I like that vendor though, bookmarked for next order.
    FYI...The Ripper is available up to a 6" dia.

  20. #20
    exkenna's Avatar
    exkenna is offline Stainless
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    North Alabama
    Posts
    1,215

    Default

    Ripper mill kit prices:

    End mill version
    1.00" 2-flute w/20 inserts $240.00
    1.25" 2-flute w/20 inserts $245.00

    Face mill version
    2" 4-flute w/30 inserts $360.00
    3" 5-flute w/30 inserts $385.00
    4" 6-flute w/30 inserts $410.00

    The Ripper Mill and the Mits BXD are very similar except mine has two pegs in the insert pocket that keep the insert from trying to rotate at high rpm/feed rates. Considering that a quality cutter can easily exceed $100 per inch of diameter this is a smoking good deal. The inserts are usually about $13.00 each so you're basically getting them for free. There are probably 60 guys on this board using these and I've only had one return. I don't make a habit of pushing tools on the message board but this tool is such a money maker.

    Another tool to consider is the Shear Hog marketed by AB Tools.
    Shear Hog

    I hear really good things about the Shear Hog but don't have any personal experience with it. Lots of guys here on the board using it as well.

    X

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •