pittsburgcat
Plastic
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2011
- Location
- Missouri
We are looking to purchase some new machines and are considering this brand. Looking for any feedback you may be able to share. TIA
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We are looking to purchase some new machines and are considering this brand. Looking for any feedback you may be able to share. TIA
I will go back to my standard queston. Why that make? Of all the machines available, why YCM?
we are looking for the best value. we need about 10 new (large) vertical machine centers for a new program we won. We don't currently do any machining although i have owned a business previously where we did some. Obviously we have looked at HAAS machines and there are some advantages there. That said this is a big investment and we want to make sure we make a good choice. Why YCM? Good question...i guess because their sales guy reached out to us and is making a compelling case. We don't need high precision, or even long life (this is a 3-5 year program) so don't really want to go with more expensive (better quality?) machines.
Anyone else think this is a risky endeavor? Limited machining experience on staff and taking on a multi year contract requiring a million dollar or so investment.
Happens ALL the time. Seriously, I used to see this a bunch when I worked for an MTB.
Could we get this back to the topic of YCM specifically though? I have been window shopping for one for years. Some of their products look very compelling, and I have yet to hear anything bad about them.
But have you heard anyone say much great? I sold a hundred or so in my younger years. Decent middle of the road iron with a plain jane Fanuc on them. Had some issues with the lathes not having hard enough ways. Other than that, meh.
What material are the parts? What size of parts do you consider large? What quantities? Does a pallet changer on a HMC make more sense running 24/7? How many operators are you planning on using? Is the machining going to be used the majority for hogging or is there more finish, drilling and tapping? I have nothing against YCM. I cut my teeth on selling that product. If you are really looking at up to 10 machines, it makes a whole lot of sense to look at alternatives that may take less spindles and less man power. Support is important but how much support you need is also a critical factor in choosing the machines.
thin walled aluminum extrusions. 24" wide x 2" tall x 60" long. a couple tool changes, no tapping, just mainly rough cut removal of some material, low tolerance requirements. around a 3-4 min cycle time (projected by HAAS). we would love fully automated but i'm not sure the vacuum fixture is enough to keep it from chattering. so if we have a more robust fixture we may need to have operator assist. just under 1m parts per year. The machining is only part of a much larger program...this is a small piece of the pie but one we need the most help with.
we will likely have to probe 4-8 places on each part...i like the fast rapids on the YCM.
Curious on what kind of lead time they gave you? I quoted a basic lathe here in Taiwan a couple weeks ago with YCM and got told minimum 120days. Visited a few other local manufacturers and everybody is busy like crazy building machines. Quite a few mentioned possible electronic parts shortages that may cause delays as well.
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