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    Solar71 is offline Titanium
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    Hey all...

    Have not been in here in a while...
    Anyway...
    Today the new mill gets power and air...
    And all i can say is "IT'S ALIVE !!!"

    Now i have a problem...
    Our mill has a "Pallete"
    Not a normal table with those slots for the "I bolts"

    Also our mill has a second pallete on a side machine, and the 2 pallets can be programmed to swap out...

    Thats all fine and good, except we dont need any of this stuff "YET" ...

    We really want to put in a table that uses those I bolt slots, like a traditional mill uses...
    Is there a way to purchase a table like this, and bolt it to the pallete ?

    Maybe use the pallete as a base table with the I bolt table on top...

    Is this possible ?
    Right now our pallete is filled with holes...
    Different sizes and threads, and all over the place... Not in any uniform manor either... just random looking holes...

    So what can i do to use an I bolt table for this ?

    Thanks you guys...

    PS : TO HAMMER!!!
    Hey hammer... I saw your private message the other day... It said to check my email...
    I was not at home for about 4 days... When i got home i checked my email and i had about 120 emails... 99% advertisements for penis emlargment and viagra and porn... lol...

    I looked and i could not find any email from you...

    It is possible that i missed your email and deleted it with all the other junk mail... so if i did that... sorry... if i didnt do that, then i didnt get your email... once again sorry...

    Can you please send it again ?

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    Yeah SOlar, there are LOTS of different types, and styles of "sub-plates"

    Look at this link for bunches of companies that sell this stuff.

    http://www.mmsonline.com/mtg/Supplie...cfm?ID=5680%20

    OR, and here is a biggie...

    Make your own.

    You might not want to spend the time. But since you work in a machine shop you can do it.
    Best of luck,

    Doug.

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    it is possible to bolt a "sub plate" to your pallets. you could make a sub plate yourself and put the "t-slots" in it. there are a number of companies that will make it for you but they are pricey. what i have done in the past is build them myself. if your company has access to a Blanchard type grinder or even a extra large surface grinder you could buy regular flat steel. otherwise you would need to buy some grount(sp?)flat stock.

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    this is a vertical or a horizontal?

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    I dont know if its verticle or horizontal...
    The table is flat... horizontal...
    the drill tip goes up and down...

    so the drill tip is moving "Verticle"
    and the table moved around on the "Horizontal" plane...

    So what would you call that ?

    PS : if i goto google... what would i type to find this I bolt table ?

    "I bolt table"
    "Mill table"
    "Pallete tabel"

    thanks

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    Solar, If the table is paralell to the floor, then it is a vertical mill. hence the tool moving up and down in Z. (yes this is an overly simplified explanation)


    Click on the link I provided.
    There are about 50 different companies that provide "pallet subplates"
    If you watn to search on goolge, use the term pallet subplate.... or machining center subplate...ect...

    Doug.

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    Thanks doug!!!

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    Solar,
    I have a sub plate that has uniform tapped holes plus tapped holes to mount two vices. It is great for vice work or fixture work. I am not sure of the size. It is in a building that I use for storage some distance from my home. It came on a Moog Hydra-Point mill. If you are interested I can go get the mesurements; length, width, and thickness. I'm thinking $300.00 plus shipping.
    Thanks, Gary

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    to raptor...

    thank you, i will look into what size we need...
    i still need to measure the pallette that the new mill has... once i find out i can let you know...

    thanks again

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    they are called T slots in the table.

    for use with T nuts in the slot

    (and any old bolts or studs).


    ironically, "I bolts", -they would go into threaded holes. they would be used to lift a machine or whatever. a "lifting eye"

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    lol. here we go

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    In the words of the immortal John Wayne:

    "This is gettin' to be re-gawd-damn-diculous."


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    who cares what they are called...

    I just want to get a table for my mill with those slots in it... Like in a traditional mill...

    some of you could probably get rich by eating coal and ****ting diamonds...

    try it

    PS : thanks for the info

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    who cares what they are called...
    uhhh it's metal
    what is a wheel barrel?


    uhhh it's heavy
    what is a 1972 cadillac?


    uhhh it has a round head
    what is the ball on top of a flagpole

    uhhh if your turn it with an allen wrench it tightens things down
    what is a bolt?

    DING DING DING...WINNER!!


    uhhh

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    >> who cares what they are called...

    Solar, would' ja' quit that? Yer' maken' me agree with Pi! :rolleyes:

    It makes a big difference when you go to ask for something - especially when you ask for something by another name, but that name belongs to something quite diffrent - I can assure you that trying to use Eye-Bolts in the place of T-Nuts is not gonna' work! Also - when you ask for help like that; nobody can understand what the heck yer' talkin' bout'!

    __________________________________________________ ____________

    From your description, you have a VMC (Vertical Machining Center), not a HMC (Horizontal Machining Center).

    Re: palette sub-plates...

    You could purchase one. Or as mentioned above, make one. To make one, you will need a precision-ground steel plate, and a T-Slot Cutter (in addition to your usual tooling). Also, in addition to the T-Slots, I would put in some tapped holes and locator holes for attaching fixtures...

    BTW - bring you camera when you go to check the mill dimensions - I'd be interested in seeing what this beast looks like...


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    P.s. go check your eMail again... (not that it really matters, as I'm no longer in LA, but...)


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    >> uhhh it's metal
    >> what is a wheel barrel?


    Ahem... thats Wheel Barrow... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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    woah, relax solar.

    you SHOULD CARE. your looking for one. you will have an easier time finding one if you know what to google for.

    You'll sound like a real dumbass on the phone talking to some equipment dealer asking for an I bolt table.

    I was just helping.

    problem with the internet is you cant tell the tone.

    here's a hint. Re-read anything that pisses you off and try very hard to read it the NICE WAY. it takes real practice.

    Yes, maybe you'll miss the opportunity to fly off the handle at someone who really was being an ass. SO WHAT?

    (it's advice I need to follow more often too)

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    Ahem... thats Wheel Barrow
    you are right. i'll be

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    Solar,

    We have a Matsuura VMC1000 with the pallet changer. Underneath the pallet locating fixture (the part that holds the pallet) is a standard t-slotted table. There's a sheet metal shroud around it, so its not obvious unless you take it apart.

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    yo dsergison

    i was not angry at you...
    but it was more a repley to the 2 posters just after you...

    Pi and jack...

    thanks for the help

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