DMF_TomB
Diamond
- Joined
- Dec 13, 2008
- Location
- Rochester, NY, USA
iso guy been pushing last few years that all work instructions and drawings be from computer monitor and no paper versions used in the shop.
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formally the paper versions of drawings and work instructions at the machine often had hand written notes of possible edits to be done to the electronic versions to update them when the changes have been used or proven to be correct. so the argument is the latest version is the paper version at the machine where used and where it is verified to be correct as it is used.
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i have suggested we stamp paperwork being edited or updated version on the paper versions. but a "office" person who always sits next to a big computer monitor might prefer the electronic version. maybe in the future i will use a big computer tablet connected to wifi but paper versions are easier and dont have to worry about dropping or damaging.
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so my question is do other shops destroy all paper drawings and work instructions older than 24 hours and only use electronic versions for all shop work ?? this includes machine operator manuals. do you throw out all the machine operator manuals and only have and or use electronic versions ??
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basically iso guy is saying every library in the world with paper books needs to be destroyed and replaced with only electronic versions assuming electronic is the latest version. my take on it is if i write with pencil todays date on it the paper hardcopy then is the latest version and electronic version is older. this assumes there is not 100 people possibly working on same version editing at the same time that never talk to one another. often there is only one or 2 people who work at one machine and they actually talk to each other every day. usually 1st person makes edits and 2nd person reads edits to see if understandable before they are submitted working as a team for electronic updating. i understand changes get approved which basically sees if 2 different edits that conflict were being done by different people but for 99.99% of jobs that dont happen. whats more likely is paper version with latest updates is not used. for example drawing is redlined with changes that never get updated on computer version. none the less the paper redlined version is still the most correct more often than electronic version version in my experience that is.
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formally the paper versions of drawings and work instructions at the machine often had hand written notes of possible edits to be done to the electronic versions to update them when the changes have been used or proven to be correct. so the argument is the latest version is the paper version at the machine where used and where it is verified to be correct as it is used.
.
i have suggested we stamp paperwork being edited or updated version on the paper versions. but a "office" person who always sits next to a big computer monitor might prefer the electronic version. maybe in the future i will use a big computer tablet connected to wifi but paper versions are easier and dont have to worry about dropping or damaging.
.
so my question is do other shops destroy all paper drawings and work instructions older than 24 hours and only use electronic versions for all shop work ?? this includes machine operator manuals. do you throw out all the machine operator manuals and only have and or use electronic versions ??
.
basically iso guy is saying every library in the world with paper books needs to be destroyed and replaced with only electronic versions assuming electronic is the latest version. my take on it is if i write with pencil todays date on it the paper hardcopy then is the latest version and electronic version is older. this assumes there is not 100 people possibly working on same version editing at the same time that never talk to one another. often there is only one or 2 people who work at one machine and they actually talk to each other every day. usually 1st person makes edits and 2nd person reads edits to see if understandable before they are submitted working as a team for electronic updating. i understand changes get approved which basically sees if 2 different edits that conflict were being done by different people but for 99.99% of jobs that dont happen. whats more likely is paper version with latest updates is not used. for example drawing is redlined with changes that never get updated on computer version. none the less the paper redlined version is still the most correct more often than electronic version version in my experience that is.