Thread: 1954 Deckel FP2

As it is a bit slow on this Deckel forum I thought to post some pictures from my 1954 Deckel FP2 I got recently
It has a different head not like the later FP2's but still NT40 A bit like on a Thiel 158

It came with a electrical cabinet but originaly the electrical components were in the column in the space behind
the rack for the oilguns on later versions
The pushbuttons were in a different position a bit lower with rods through the casting which operated pushbuttons inside the space in the casting for the electrical components
At least that is how I think it was originally
Also there is a little hatch at the back where there used to be a outlet for the centering scope
I got it from a france school and they probbably spend more time painting it as milling with it
It is in a suprisingly good condition for a 58 jr old machine
I plan on putting the original pushbuttons back to work again
Does anybody have a manual in PDF for a this machine
I like to see how the original electrical component were placed inside the casting
Also some pictures

Peter from holland

G'day Peter,

I too own a Deckel FP2 of the same vintage as that shown in the photos in this thread. Mine was bought from a dealer in Holland two years ago and has the same distinctive vertical head attachment. Like yours it has the start/stop buttons mounted halfway up the column but does not have the small hatch at the rear of the machine.

Yours is the first one with this type of vertical head that I have seen anywhere - apart from my own. I have managed to buy an old sales brochure that shows this vertical head FP2 on the front cover but do not have any information concerning the internals of this type of vertical head as yet. I do not know the year of mine but suppose it to be in the early 1950's. Its serial number is 45091 which I presume makes it a little older than yours. However, not knowing what the first serial number assigned to the FP2 series of machines was, I cannot date it any better than that.

Mine is not going at the moment as when it arrived I found that the electrics had not been set to right (as promised by the dealer) and there was a lot of oil in the base of the cabinet - indicating an oil seal gone at least somewhere higher up in the machine - yet to be fixed. It had been painted by the dealer and had new bellows fitted as well. So it is a mixed bag but appears to be basically OK.

I will post some photos when I get time.

Thanks for this thread

Quentin

I will

I will post some photos in the future

Hi Peter,
Thanks again for the link to that French site regarding my Deckel PF2 from a few days ago.
The FP2 I have is the same vintage as the one in this thread, I am still trying to find a parts and operating manual in English, the German version I downloaded is helpful but does not really show exploded views, disassembly instructions etc.

I have the original manual for my FP1 and appreciate how detailed and specific the parts lists are, looking for the same for my FP2.
Kindly let me know if you have any suggestions.
Thank you
Shoukry
Montreal

Originally Posted by peterve

As it is a bit slow on this Deckel forum I thought to post some pictures from my 1954 Deckel FP2 I got recently
It has a different head not like the later FP2's but still NT40 A bit like on a Thiel 158
It came with a electrical cabinet but originaly the electrical components were in the column in the space behind
the rack for the oilguns on later versions
The pushbuttons were in a different position a bit lower with rods through the casting which operated pushbuttons inside the space in the casting for the electrical components
At least that is how I think it was originally
Also there is a little hatch at the back where there used to be a outlet for the centering scope
I got it from a france school and they probbably spend more time painting it as milling with it
It is in a suprisingly good condition for a 58 jr old machine
I plan on putting the original pushbuttons back to work again
Does anybody have a manual in PDF for a this machine
I like to see how the original electrical component were placed inside the casting
Also some pictures

Peter from holland

On that french forum you find the parts manual in German
If you want the user manual in Englisch you can buy a DVD full of Deckel manuals from Wrench a member on this board
I cannot remember seeing a manual for a Deckel this old in it however
but the differences apart from the head are minor

Peter from Holland

Great looking machine!

I really want to get a deckel.

I can supply you some

Peter from holland

Originally Posted by Cueball

I will post some photos in the future

We will all be dead in the future. Been 3.5 months m'man...let's see those photos ! In the meantime, antique FP2er's.... was this model originally all gray paint or were there some green ones ?

Originally Posted by Milacron

We will all be dead in the future. Been 3.5 months m'man...let's see those photos ! In the meantime, antique FP2er's.... was this model originally all gray paint or were there some green ones ?

Too true! My apologies for taxing one's longevity.

I am presently working away from home and as we have just come out of winter (officially finished yesterday), everything has been under covers in my overcrowded garage for some months. Yes, a workshop proper is still to be built but these things take time when one is raising a family.

I should be able to post photos before the end of September, hoping that all can survive that long.

With regard colour, mine has been repainted in the ubiquitous European milling machine green (ala Deckel) and I cannot remember if this is the original colour - however I suspect it is not original.

Thanks for the interest and again my apologies for the tardiness in posting photos.

Regards

Quentin

Gray was the machinecolour in Europe until TOS and other Eastern European machinebuilders started selling their green machines in the seventies
At least I was told so by a former TOS dealer
So probably no green Deckels until the seventies

Peter from holland