Flying Dutchman
Cast Iron
- Joined
- Jan 20, 2005
- Location
- Heemskerk, Holland
Hi All,
I can hear you thinking, what is Arboga doing in a forum on European Milling Machines. Well the U-2508 is a Milling Drilling Machine and it is European. Oh sure, not Deckel, Aciera or who else but still considered to be a serious machine.
First, I am not a machinist whatsoever but I so much enjoyed my SB-9A project last winter so I decided I needed another project for this one.
Most of my 'knowledge' came from lots of reading on forums like this and talking to people 'in the field'.
So was the Arboga my first choice?? No, surely not but it was the only serious thing I could (would) afford. I bought her unseen on E-bay Germany for 955 Euro, which is decent, depending on the condition, to European standards. Next thing up was a very old Deckel FP-1 with the change wheel tyoe table feed at 2400 Euro. Go figure. So am I happy with my new project?? Well, I think I got more than I bargained for from a re-hab project point of view. Please see the continuing story below which will be updated from time to time.
So for those that do not know what the Arboga, should, look like please see below:
Fri-30-Sept
So, finaly got the machine in from Germany. Was I pleased?? Hmm, mixed feelings. Surely happy with the size of machine it is, not a big heavy industrial yet not a 'hobby' machine. There is some play in the Spindle and Gears and the electrics look like someone has been hobbying a bit. There are two half molten home type wall sockets on the machine which I think have been used for 'lighting'. I am realy scared to fire it up so I started to cut all the wiring and diasemble the 'switchboard'. There is also some play in the Y direction, or was it X??. Good thing about the machine is that it has original build quality so everything can be fixed. Also the machine has powerfeed to the table with something clever called a anti-collision clutch. Way to go Arboga. Finished for the day.
Disassembly underway
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0100.jpg
One very empty Quill and Motorhousing
Tue 04-Oct,
Decided to strip the entire head as well.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0092.jpg
Empty Gear Housing
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0092.jpg
Gear and Quill remains
I am not really happy with what I am seeing and reconfirms my prejudice against geared things over belts and pulleys. One of the Tufnol main gears has three halfway broken teeth, Not really looking forward to the quote expected from Arboga for a new one.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0096.jpg
Damaged Teeth on the Main Shaft Tufnol Gear
Also need to replace 80% of the bearings and take two shafts to the machineshop for cutting new keyways at 90 deg. phasing as there is too much play in the current ones. I was quite happy that I ordered the manual with 'www.lathes.co.uk'
Dismounted the Stator from the Quill/Motor Housing and send her to the local re-wirer to have the windings checked and otherwise rewound.(look a bit dodgy)
So far so good. Hey this is a real Milling & Drilling Machine, it can cut up to 5 mil. deep using a 14 mil. cutter. It's column is massive and very ridgid. Probably is going to blow a hole in my budget as I figured about 1000 Euro for the machine and a further 500 Euro for the basic tooling.
Well I don't think I am going to make the budget.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0099.jpg
A rather sad picture with the machine in it's current state.
For more pictures please use the following link:
web page
Until the next update.
Best regards,
Piet Butter
[ 10-07-2005, 03:07 AM: Message edited by: Flying Dutchman ]
I can hear you thinking, what is Arboga doing in a forum on European Milling Machines. Well the U-2508 is a Milling Drilling Machine and it is European. Oh sure, not Deckel, Aciera or who else but still considered to be a serious machine.
First, I am not a machinist whatsoever but I so much enjoyed my SB-9A project last winter so I decided I needed another project for this one.
Most of my 'knowledge' came from lots of reading on forums like this and talking to people 'in the field'.
So was the Arboga my first choice?? No, surely not but it was the only serious thing I could (would) afford. I bought her unseen on E-bay Germany for 955 Euro, which is decent, depending on the condition, to European standards. Next thing up was a very old Deckel FP-1 with the change wheel tyoe table feed at 2400 Euro. Go figure. So am I happy with my new project?? Well, I think I got more than I bargained for from a re-hab project point of view. Please see the continuing story below which will be updated from time to time.
So for those that do not know what the Arboga, should, look like please see below:
Fri-30-Sept
So, finaly got the machine in from Germany. Was I pleased?? Hmm, mixed feelings. Surely happy with the size of machine it is, not a big heavy industrial yet not a 'hobby' machine. There is some play in the Spindle and Gears and the electrics look like someone has been hobbying a bit. There are two half molten home type wall sockets on the machine which I think have been used for 'lighting'. I am realy scared to fire it up so I started to cut all the wiring and diasemble the 'switchboard'. There is also some play in the Y direction, or was it X??. Good thing about the machine is that it has original build quality so everything can be fixed. Also the machine has powerfeed to the table with something clever called a anti-collision clutch. Way to go Arboga. Finished for the day.
Disassembly underway
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0100.jpg
One very empty Quill and Motorhousing
Tue 04-Oct,
Decided to strip the entire head as well.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0092.jpg
Empty Gear Housing
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0092.jpg
Gear and Quill remains
I am not really happy with what I am seeing and reconfirms my prejudice against geared things over belts and pulleys. One of the Tufnol main gears has three halfway broken teeth, Not really looking forward to the quote expected from Arboga for a new one.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0096.jpg
Damaged Teeth on the Main Shaft Tufnol Gear
Also need to replace 80% of the bearings and take two shafts to the machineshop for cutting new keyways at 90 deg. phasing as there is too much play in the current ones. I was quite happy that I ordered the manual with 'www.lathes.co.uk'
Dismounted the Stator from the Quill/Motor Housing and send her to the local re-wirer to have the windings checked and otherwise rewound.(look a bit dodgy)
So far so good. Hey this is a real Milling & Drilling Machine, it can cut up to 5 mil. deep using a 14 mil. cutter. It's column is massive and very ridgid. Probably is going to blow a hole in my budget as I figured about 1000 Euro for the machine and a further 500 Euro for the basic tooling.
Well I don't think I am going to make the budget.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a169/ButterP/?action=view¤t=DCAM0099.jpg
A rather sad picture with the machine in it's current state.
For more pictures please use the following link:
web page
Until the next update.
Best regards,
Piet Butter
[ 10-07-2005, 03:07 AM: Message edited by: Flying Dutchman ]