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    I have finally finished! The CD-ROM with Deckel material is now available.... As you may recall, I embarked upon a project over a year ago to scan my Deckel material as a service to all of us. This was *not* a trivial thing to do. It involved a ton of time and also required that I purchase some very expensive equipment (11x17 scanner). Therefore, this material is not (sadly) free. However, I have attempted to give a huge amount of information for what I believe is a fair price. The goal here always was to provide data, not become a business. But I would like to be able to recoup my expenses. I think this is a fair thing to ask. Therefore, if you decide to "buy" one of these CDs, my only request is that you not copy it and give it to your friends; instead, please send them my way. In return, I am offering the CD at $60 , which includes postage to anywhere in the US, Canada and most of Europe. Please email me for an address. I've not sent anything to other locations, so please bear with me on specifics there! [Added Note: If you would prefer to use PayPal, please send $63 (to cover their fees). The account name is the same as my email address, and can be found in my user profile here.] Again, I think this is a reasonable price, and the 3 people that contacted me before I was done have been very happy with the material they got (they can pipe in here if they would like).

    Here is a partial list of what I have on the CD (I believe it is about 600 meg of 300-600 DPI PDF files):
    GK12/21 Operator's Manual
    GK12/21 Parts Manual (1950s vintage)
    GK12/21 Parts Manual (1970s vintage)
    Electrical Cabinet schematics for different FP1 and FP2 vintages
    FP1 Operator's Manual : 2 Wheel vintage
    FP1 Parts Manual : 2 Wheel vintage
    FP1 Parts Manual : Lever vintage
    FP1 Operator's Manual : 2 motor (most recent) vintage
    FP2 Operator's Manual : 2 Wheel vintage
    FP2 Parts Manual : 2 Wheel vintage
    FP2 Operator's Manual : 4 Wheel vintage (has extra handle for speed control)
    FP2 Parts Manual : 4 Wheel vintage (has extra handle for speed control)
    Grinding Head Operator's Manual
    Grinding Head Addendums, speed charts, adaptive control, etc, etc
    Centering Scope Addendum
    Corner Milling Attachment Addendum
    DRO Addendum
    FP2 Optical Head Addendum
    Punch Milling Attachment Addendum
    Rotary Table Addendum
    Universal & Rotary Table Addendum
    Collet Thread specifications
    Deckel Symbol Definitions
    Extensive Terms and Translations Document
    Machine Installation Addendum
    Fitting of an Angular Table Addendum
    FP2 Setup Information
    Lubricant Specification (German)
    Mobil Oil Mixing Chart (your's truly)
    Table of Lubricants (English)
    FP1 Motor Connection chart
    Siemens Motor Manuals and Connections
    Interesting information on FP1 & FP2 machines I have purchased, including original receipts
    Deckel FP1 Fold-out sales collateral
    Deckel FP2 (second version) sales collateral
    Another FP2 sales collateral
    Deckel FP3 sales collateral
    Deckel Product Line sales collateral
    Another Deckel Product Line sales collateral
    Deckel Tool Cabinet Insert sales collateral
    Deckel Tools & Accessories sales collateral (2 vintages)
    Deckel CNC sales collateral
    Deckel Factory Tour
    LKD Sales Brochure
    Maho Product Line sales collateral, several versions
    Two S0 grinder manual
    Technical Bulletins from Deckel, 1955 to 1974 (thank you Ross!)
    Wohlhaupter sales brochure
    Dialog CNC control trouble-shooting manual

    Addendums are sometimes the same information as found in the manual. In addition, a few of these manuals are repeated because they are from different vintages.

    There may be some other odds and ends in the list that I have missed. Plus, I'd love to add more if anyone has something that I do not have. I can scan it if you would like. Finally, although I have not put it in this CD, I also have manuals for:

    Schaublin 13 (parts and Operations)
    Emco Maier Super-11 lathe (if not available from Emco... have to go to them if it is)
    Emco Maier milling head (if not available from Emco... have to go to them if it is)
    Emco Maier EmcoTurn 120 lathe (if not available from Emco... have to go to them if it is)
    Monarch 10EE lathe
    Monarch 10EE lathe sales collateral

    That is about it, off the top of my head. If you have an interest, please let me know. Again, however, this is an honor system thing. Please don't redistribute the CD. The goal was never to make this into a real "business"... I wanted to make this stuff available to all of us as fellow hobbiests, but I would like to recoup my expenses!

    Thanks,
    Alan

    P.S. I reserve the right to remove material if it turns out that there are copyright issues. I don't think this is the case because this stuff is so old, but I may be wrong. Heck, most of the companies don't even exist anymore and the ones that do cannot provide the information because they threw it all away years ago! Still, in the interest of protecting myself and them, I have to put that disclaimer in here..... Sorry

    I AM TRYING TO KEEP THIS LIST RELATIVELY UP TO DATE



    [This message has been edited by wrench (edited 10-10-2003).]

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    Sales "collateral" ? Are you a loan officer in your work life ?

    Sounds good, just don't sell "marjen" of eBay fame a copy or you'll start seeing exerpts on eBay for 60 bucks.

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    Wow Alan, didn't know you had done *that* much scanning.

    I'll take one for sure and I would think that anyone else with a Deckel would too.

    Sean

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    Hi Don,
    I'm glad you think so.... And yes, I've seen all of marjen's sales on eBay, and had the same feeling. This CD is "designed" to do away with exactly that type of piece-meal approach and get a bunch of stuff to people without killing them. Truthfully, however, I've got to "sell" a bunch of these to make it worth my time; thankfully one guy who has been looking for a manual contacted me. He seems quite happy. That is gratifying.

    BTW, you have a bunch of sales collateral (hey, it is the technical name! ) I'd be interested in putting on the CD. Interested?

    Alan

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    Ooops, yeah... Don is right.

    Alan obviously went to a bunch of work here and is definetely in the true Deckel Lovers circle.
    I would hope that *when* this CD appears on the open market, that consideration is given to Alan, regardless of price.

    Sean

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    I have the mother of all 1960's and newer Aciera literature collection. Naturally no one but me and 2 or 3 others on Earth care about late model Acieras so I wouldn't bother to scan the stack if I were you. Other than that I don't have much in Deckel stuff you don't already have, except the manuals on pre 1987 FP4M's and post 1987 FP4M's...seeing as how they are over 300 pages each and very limited interest, I wouldn't recommend they be scanned either.

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    Alan: Count me in on the CD....Would you be interested in scanning any Deckel Technical Bulitens? I have one bound volume and a second that is a copy. Both are quite interesting as the material covers a wide range of Deckel products and uses setups and the like. Ross

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    Hi Ross,
    Great!... I actually have many of the technical bulletins, but you may have more. If so, then yes, I would love to add them. If you can tell me what you have (might as well do this off-line to avoid cluttering the list) then I can cross reference.

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    Alan,
    I commend you for all this work! Even though it costs money, I view it as a great favor to the Deckel enthusiast community. How many of the technical bulletins on the CD pertain to pantographs?
    Thanks,
    Rich

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    Hi Rich: I'll check this tonight and update this posting. The bulletins are, for the most part, from the late 50's, however, so I don't know how much pantograph stuff they will have (impression is that the pantographs entered the line in the 60s... may be wrong there). You bring up a point, though.... I don't have any pantograph manuals. Would you like to contribute to the cause?
    Alan

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    D Thomas:

    You describe having the mother of all Aciera literature collections. Perhaps I am one of the 2 or 3 others on the earth who cares. Does your collection have F-2 stuff? I have an F-2and would be interested in copies of anything you might have that is relevant. I'd pay you of course.
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    Alan,

    I'll take a copy also, thanks so much for all the hard work. Are you set up with Paypal or anything that would make the funds transfer easier?

    Brian

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    Alan,
    Regarding contributions of pantograph manuals: I wish I could! I have a pantograph but no manuals. I have some copies on order from a couple of pantograph enthusiasts who post here. I defer to them to decide whether they want to offer copies for a CD.
    Rich

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    An Open Invitation to Pantograph Owners:
    I am interested in adding pantographs to the CD-ROM. If you have a manual, I would like the opportunity to scan it (prefer original, but copies are fine too... I promise to return original!). I've gone through the onesy twosy copy route to help people out, and it is just a pain in the rear. That was the driving reason I started the CD. If you would like to contribute to the "library" please let me know. That way people will be able to see how the machines work even if they don't have one (half the fun of the hobby, if you ask me).

    Thanks,
    Alan

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    rk, note I said 60's and later only..the "squared" modern looking Acieras...is your's of that ilk ?

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    I have some round head Aciera f-3 stuff in both German and English, also some Deckel GO (1920's) including blue prints, and some later pantagraph stuff....also have a few years of copies of Deckel's magazine I think was called Tech.. Bullitan...someone out there has a whole set....they would be great to include. also can a MAC read this CD?

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    I am interested in enhancing the CD, as I said, with any Deckel or Swiss (or other interesting) machinery. The magazines, F3 and other stuff would be *very* welcome. Please contact me offline (haven't checked my email since early this afternoon... sorry) and we can figure this out.

    As for Mac support.... Someone will have to help me out there as I'm not a Mac person. These files will be written with a CD-writer from a PC system. Is the file system for a CD different between Macs and PCs? I should know, but I don't! As for the information.... that is all PDF based, which should be interchangeable.

    Alan

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    Hi... I'd like one too.... How do I go about paying you? Address?

    Mark

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    Wrench- I'd like a copy also when you get ready to send them out. I just brought my first fp2 home today so I'm anxious to see that part of the cd in particular. I'd also be very interested in seeing the schaublin stuff.

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    I'm interested! As soon as you have a price and are able to send please let me know. If you run into Aciera F4 info would also be very interested. Big thank you for doing this! Cheers, Stan.

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