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Old 04-22-2006, 07:20 PM
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I am owner of 2 Deckel milling machines which i use for hobby.

Brand of machine: Deckel
Series of machine: FP1
Size of machine: (1)
Style of machine: lever
Year of machine: 1955
Serial number of machine: 31137
Measuring standard: Metric
Taper: MT4
Input voltage: 3-phase 380
Cabinet style: no cabinet
Color of machine: green, repaint
Condition of machine: great
Major acc's: (Indexer head with 3-jaw chuck and overarm and tailstock with center, DRO Heidenhain Positip VRZ 769 3axle, horizontal overarm, vertical head, lamp (newer), toolmakers tilting table, 4" vice 360 degrees, set collets Deckel, Clarkson Autolock chuck set, etc.)
Primary use: hobbiest
City, Country: Wieringermeer, Netherlands
Comments: Complete and less used machine, type-plates in Dutch

Brand of machine: Deckel
Series of machine: FP1
Size of machine: (1)
Style of machine: lever
Year of machine: 1961 (date stamped in cabinet)
Serial number of machine: 35960
Measuring standard: Metric
Taper: MT4
Input voltage: 3-phase 380
Cabinet style: with cabinet
Color of machine: green, repaint
Condition of machine: great, more used as te machine above
Major acc's: (Fixed table, vertical head, 4" vice, Clarkson Autolock chuck set, etc.)
Primary use: hobbiest
City, Country: Wieringermeer, Netherlands
Comments: Complete machine, type-plates in German (machine for sale)
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Old 06-03-2006, 04:17 PM
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OK, you Deckel guys, move over ...

Brand of machine: Schaublin
Series of machine: 13
Year of machine: 1975
Serial number of machine: 268861
Measuring standard: Metric
Taper: (ISO30 / DIN 2080
Input voltage: 380-440
Color of machine: Green
Condition of machine: Great
Major acc's: Toolroom table
High Speed DRilling Head
Slotting Head
Dividing Head (Walter)
Rotary table (Walter)
Primary use: Hobbiest / Camera & Machine parts
City, Country: Cotswold Country, Wiltshire UK
Comments: Just about all the 30 Int. tooling there is but I hate the Collet chucks and use the Schaublin "D" Type 30 Int. collets

... and here it is:



This is my forth trade-up Schaublin 13 and its here to stay

John
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:33 PM
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Brand of machine Deckel
Series of machine: FP
Size of machine: 1
Style of machine: lever
Year of machine: 1956
Serial number of machine: 31874
Measuring standard: imperial
Taper: MT4
Input voltage: 220
Cabinet style: no cabinet
Color of machine: grey (rough)
Condition of machine: good
Major acc's: Boring head, Vertical Head, Slotting Head and Rigid Table
Primary use: building car parts - hobbiest use
City, Country: Ontario, Canada
Comments: Machine came out of the Husky plant in toronto. needs paint and some tuning.

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Old 08-11-2006, 09:27 PM
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Don,t know if this goes in this list, trying to find any information on it.

PRINCE HUNTER PAL milling machine

BALDING ENGINEERING LTD.
SWEET BRIAR ROAD
NORWICH NOR. 42C.

Heavy built milling maching, can anyone help with information.

Will try to take photo this wekend.
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:37 AM
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Brand of machine (Steinel)
Series of machine: (SV4D)
Size of machine: (1220 lbs)
Style of machine: (Verticle mill)
Year of machine: (sold new in 1958)
Serial number of machine: (1772)
Measuring standard: (imperial)
Taper: (NMTB-30)
Control model for NC's: ()
Input voltage: (208-3ph driven by VFD)
Cabinet style: (no cabinet)
Color of machine: (grey)
Condition of machine: (great)
Major acc's: (Rotary vise, tool holders)
Primary use: (hobby)
City, Country: (Huntington, WV USA)
Comments: (I am the third owner and I have the operators manual. I am also looking for the horizantal model )
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Old 09-10-2006, 02:27 AM
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Brand of machine: Deckel
Series of machine: FP2NC
Size of machine: 12 x 12 x 16 travels
Style of machine: Dialog 4 CNC
Year of machine: 1986
Serial number of machine: 2801-1563
Measuring standard: metric with inch conversion
Taper: Cat40-NC Stud
Control model for NC's: Dialog 4
Input voltage: 220 with a 220:380 transformer
Cabinet style: ext cabinet (huge)
Color of machine: green
Condition of machine: good/great
Major acc's: Hi-speed vertical head (6300 RPM), plain table.
Primary use: hobbiest (engine models, parts for machinery restoration), prototyping (various inventions for my emloyer), lab mechanical test fixtures.
City, Country: SF Bay Area California
Comments: Other than some issues with intermittent or nonfunctioning pushbuttons, this machine is in very good condition.
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Old 09-10-2006, 02:39 AM
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Brand of machine: Aciera
Series of machine: F2
Size of machine: roughly 8 x 6 x 8 travels
Style of machine: universal
Year of machine: early 60's
Serial number of machine: 25180
Measuring standard: inch
Taper: W20
Input voltage: 220 single phase to VFD
Cabinet style: the base is the cabinet, has lots of tool storage.
Color of machine: grey
Condition of machine: good
Major acc's: universal table, vertical spindle attachment, horizontal overarm, 1/2" & 3/4" horizontal arbors (home made, but very nice), several W20 collets, drill chuck, wrenches, rapid-feed handlevers for all three axes, oil gun, holddown set.
Primary use: hobbiest (engine models, parts for machinery restoration), prototyping (various inventions for my emloyer), lab mechanical test fixtures.
City, Country: SF Bay Area, California, USA
Comments: I purchased this from the "famous" Swiss Precision auction in Palo Alto in 2000(?), where there was also another F2 (with fixed table), an FP?NC, and a Schaublin 13 with all the attachements. I think the purchasers of those machines lurk here occasionally.
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:42 AM
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Make: Deckel
Model: GK-21
Year: 1979
Color: Greenish-Gray
Motor: .75 HP, 220 Volt, Single Phase

Pantograph Engraving and Profile Milling Machine
equipped with :
6 Deckel clamping straps
Collet nut wrench
Spindle face spanner wrench(had to make my own)
1/4" collet (LOL)
3D straight-edge bar
Forming plate attachment
Copyholder lettering template
Rough-milling bracket
Assortment of single lip cutters 1/8-1/2".

I love this thing

G
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:33 AM
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Brand of machine: Deckel
Series of machine: FP
Size of machine: 1
Style of machine: Lever, inside electrics, short X-travel
Year of machine: Nov. 3, 1953 (customer delivery)
Serial number of machine: 30046 (machine),4240 (vert.head)
Measuring standard: Metric
Taper: MT4
Control model for NC's: n.a.
Input voltage: 380V
Cabinet style: None
Color of machine: Green, repainted by previous owner
Condition of machine: Fair
Major acc's: Universal table, Indexer, Slotting head, Horizontal arm
Primary use: Live Steam locomotives (3.5"), Tool Making
City, Country: Maarssen, The Netherlands
Comments: Working on adding a DRO, based upon chinese digital scales connected to a PC, using a homegrown Java/Eclipse application

Previously owned an Arboga Drill/Mill, but quickly changed it to this Deckel when it came along.
Really like this machine.

Frans
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:38 AM
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Brand of machine: Heckler&Koch
Series of machine: HF2/56
Size of machine:
Style of machine: horizontal and vertical universal mill
Year of machine: 1980
Measuring standard: imperial-metric
Taper: MT3
Input voltage: 380v
Cabinet style: small tooling cabinet and electrification cabinet
Color of machine: original HK Paintshop:Ral 6011 reseda green
Condition of machine: great, not refurbished
Major acc's: dividing table, hensoldt optical dividing head, collets,....
Primary use: hobbiest
City, Country: Germany


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Old 10-09-2007, 04:06 PM
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Brand of machine: Graffenstaden
Series of machine: FU 042
Size of machine: like Deckel FP2, I guess.
(X- 42cm Y- 15cm Z- 42cm)
Year of machine: late 60s
Serial number of machine: 205154
Measuring standard: metric
Taper: MT4
Input voltage: 380V 3 phase
Color of machine: original colour green, repainted grey
Condition of machine: good
Major acc's: Standard U table
Primary use: hobbiest, prototyping
City, Country: Braga, Portugal
Comments: This mill have stamped in is side the word Angola, the old portuguese colony. I think this one had travel to Africa in the late 60s being returned to Portugal in the early 70s.

I have searched in the forums and in the web, not finding any information or just a single photo for this Graffenstaden model. Can anyone help me with any kind of information.

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http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...ENSTADEN-2.jpg

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Old 11-24-2007, 02:06 AM
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Brand of machine Deckel
Series of machine: FP
Size of machine: 1
Style of machine: lever
Year of machine: ?
Serial number of machine: 37838
Measuring standard: imperial
Taper: MT4
Input voltage: 220
Cabinet style: ext cabinet
Color of machine: repaint
Condition of machine: good
Primary use: prototyping
City, Country: Leawood, Kansas
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:29 PM
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Brand of machine: Deckel
Series of machine: FP4NC
Year of machine: 1986
Serial number of machine: 2810-4121
Taper: ISO40
Control model for NC's: Dialog 4
Input voltage: 380
Cabinet style: Tall Cabinet
Color of machine: Green
Condition of machine: Exellent
Major acc's: Universal Table, High Speed Head,Yuasa CPNC Indexer.
Primary use: (Garage Shop) Prototype, Low Volume Parts.
City, Country: Macedonia, OH USA
Comments: Machine came out of Moog NY. Mechanically well maintained. Had some control problems that DD fixed. Scince then this machine amazes me with its accuracy.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:42 AM
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Brand of machine: Deckel
Series of machine: FP
Size of machine: 1
Style of machine: Lever
Year of machine: 1953
Serial number of machine: (optional)
Measuring standard: imperial
Taper: MT4

Input voltage: 220
Cabinet style: no cabinet
Color of machine:grey
Condition of machine: very good
Major acc's: U table
Primary use: hobbiest
City, Country:Long Beach, CA
Comments: A really smooth running machine

Brand of machine Aciera
Series of machine: F
Size of machine: 2

Year of machine:Approx 1990
Serial number of machine: (optional)
Measuring standard:metric
Taper: w20
Input voltage: 220
Cabinet style: cabinet
Color of machine: green
Condition of machine: Almost new
Major acc's:
Primary use: hobbiest
City, Country: Long Beach, CA
Comments: One of the last!
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:39 PM
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I have an fp1,serial 57835/28. 40 taper,2 dial. Must be 70's from serial number. Have the plain and universal tables,vertical head,indexing head,but no tailstock.Have overhead arm for horizontal,thanks to Sean. The machine was gray,and has been carefully repainted gray. Has the big electrical cabinet. I haven't used the machine yet,but it seems in excellent condition,except for some milling cuts on the plain table,maximum 1/16" deep X 3/8" wide. Universal table unused. Also have a Deckel GK-12 pantograph #4500-1907. No tooling for it except one collet. Also in excellent shape,except for some shallow cuts on the table.
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:50 PM
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Brand of machine Elliott (Gates manufactured)
Series of machine: Omnimill
Size of machine: 00
Style of machine: horiz vertical combo - 1" arbor with 2.25" overarm -1.1Hp vertical 2hp horiz
Year of machine: 1970 - 1990 ?
Serial number of machine: (optional)
Measuring standard: imperial
Taper: MT3 (vertical) -ISO30 (horiz)
Control model for NC's: N/A
Input voltage: 415 3~ converted to 240 3~
Cabinet style:
Color of machine: green originally grey
Condition of machine: good
Major acc's: Elliott/Victoria Dividing head, Fritzwerner RT , Edgewick Vice
Primary use: hobbiest
City, Country: Reading UK
Comments:

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Old 11-02-2008, 04:21 PM
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Brand of machine Deckel
Series of machine: FP1
Size of machine: 1
Year of machine: ?? 1940 ??
Serial number of machine: 17872
Measuring standard: metric
Taper: MT4
Input voltage: 380
Cabinet style: no cabinet
Color of machine: grey & repaint
Condition of machine: fair
Primary use: hobbiest
City, Country: Moscow, Russia
Comments: This machine has worked on a large factory and was sent for scrap metal. I bought it and I will rebuild.
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Old 02-07-2009, 05:56 PM
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Default Skygrip - FP2 "1959"

Brand of machine: Deckel
Series of machine: FP
Size of machine: 2
Style of machine: single dial
Year of machine: '1959'
Serial number of machine: 46522
Measuring standard: imperial screws/metric via Acu-Rite DRO
Taper: Factory SK40
Control model for NC's: N/A
Input voltage: 220v
Cabinet style: No More Replace By: SM VECTOR LENZE AC Tech
Color of machine: Gray Original
Condition of machine: Refurbished Completely
Primary use: (hobbies-prototyping)
City: Montréal Country: Canada

Acc's:

Vertical Spindle Head with Long range Adjustment (FP2) Type 2013, Serial 2484
1X Over arm (FP2) Serial 46522
1X Universal table 2229 (FP3) Serial 0594
1X Universal Table (FP2) Serial 46522
1X 380 mm rotary table Model: 6017 Serial 72178
1X 300mm? indexing tab
1X high speed Boring head (FP2) 2021-1873
1X Centering scribe
1X High speed grinding heads
1X 3 jaw chucks,
1X V-Block Serial 5350
2X Vise CNC
1X FP-2 riser 2225 Serial 0666

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Old 02-10-2009, 07:57 PM
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Default Abene VHF-2B

Hello, this is my milling machine.
Oh, excuse me for my (technical) english.

Brand of machine: Abene
Series of machine: VHF
Size of machine: 2B
Style of machine: I think it's a lever (don't know what this means)
Year of machine: 1960/1970
Serial number of machine: No. 1341
Measuring standard: Metric.
Taper: ISO40
Input voltage: 380 volt
Cabinet style: No cabinet.
Color of machine: Blue.
Condition of machine: Great. Only 747,3 hours.
Major acc's: Indexing table (schaublin), indexing head (schaublin).
Primary use: Hobbiest.
City, Country: Hellendoorn, Overijssel, Netherlands
Comments: very practical machine to work with, real high quality.
Other machines: AI hembrug DR1-M, AI hembrug drill press, Philips mig welding machine.
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Old 02-24-2009, 06:17 AM
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Default FP2E Early Machine

Brand of machine (Deckel)
Series of machine: (FP2E)
Size of machine: (2)
Style of machine: ( two dial )
Year of machine: (1960')
Serial number of machine: ( 2205-0142 )
Measuring standard: (imperial)
Taper: (SK40 Type : using a two male thread "Pull Stud" inserted onto NT40 draw bar then a CNC Cat40 Special machined Cone inserted that has 5/8"-11 Threads M16 which Can load any ER40 Collets with a NT40-ER-70L Holder or!.
Input voltage: (440 or 220-380 with a Temco 7KW Phase Converter used with a megnetic starter switch that will shut off all equipment & protects the Converter from starting under load when power is restored.)
Cabinet style: (Std orginal Elec.Deckel MFG.)
Color of machine: (Orginal Mouse grey some Chips Touchup: Ral 7005)
Condition of machine: (all most like new)
Major acc's: (FVW2 & FVH2 table-OverArm Horz. support - Heidenhain DRO's X500mm,Y200MM and Z400MM -40 Taper TG100 Holder-Horz. Arbors 1", & 3/4", And a 40 Taper Alignment Arbor,)
Primary use: (hobbiest & Harley Motor Repair)
City, Country: (Long Beach California USA)
Comments: (An Early Built machine where the Motor is incased withen and its said that they are the rare Beauty's of all the Deckels that were ever made)

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