FP5 dialog4 with FP84 error after reset.

Hello,
After lunch my fp5 had shutdown and didn't respond anymore.
I powered down and repowered the machine ; noticed that the normal humming of pump wasn't there.
Looked in the power cabinet and status of sps was different then normal.
The code 1,2,3 and 4 led off in combination with led 5,6,7 and 8 on. (board on the left in the sps)

Looked up that code and the manual says something like 'no response' from the control unit.

Did a reset procedure on the control, that went well but after that two strange things :

- after setting the rs232 parameters , able to start downloading a program but after that finished the program list stayed empty.
Did several attempts but same result.
strangly the total available memory does go down.

- later also an sps error FP84 came up.
In 'not my' manual that points to a pallet error , but i don't gave that on the machine.

- On the left of the control the third led from the left is lit. Normally that was never the case if i remember correctly.
it's the /\/->| symbol , i'm not sure what it stands for.

p.s. the two attery voltages in the control are ok.
didn't check the one in the sps yet but age is the same as the others.

Anyone any idea what to look for ?

Gr.
Sander

Is it possible to enter a program normally going MDI at the keyboard of the control?

Not really any clue...but i would first try removing every card one at a time and reseating every E-prom.
Set the card down on a piece of wood, then press down firmly on the chip.....Push right, left and center..
They sometimes will work loose in the sockets due to thermal changes when powering up or down..
Cheers Ross

Thanks Ross,

I also don't have a clue yet.
Maybe I can spend some time on it this saturday.
Rather busy now with racing activities.

I'll report if I find anything interesting.

Gr. Sander

Spend some time on reseating the E-proms by pushing on them only , didn't remove them from their sockets.
One of the problems is gone now , now I can load a program by RS232 and it is listed in the program list also.

When putting the control 'online' with the green button ; the FP84 error shows up within seconds.

Reseated some eproms on the SPS input cards and checked the dip switches.
No result yet , the FP84 error shows up again.

Gr.
Sander

Did you try reloading the executive from the e-proms?
Cheers Ross

AlfaGTA said:

Did you try reloading the executive from the e-proms?
Cheers Ross

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Hello Ross,

I'm not familiar with this procedure.
What does that do ? and how is this procedure performed ?

Do you mean the e-proms of the sps and/or the computer of the control. ?

Thanks for your help , with this error the machine cannot be used for now.

Gr. Sander

Process goes like this:
Assuming both batteries are good and have the required voltages.
Main power on, power on the control.
Open the cover of the operators station (where the boards are exposed).

Pull the K10 jumper that bridges 4 boards.
Pull the green power connector (X120) from the NSV board....

Re-connect the K10 jumper.

Reconnect the X120 plug

Switch to mode 16.
power up...you will be prompted to clear (delete) and enter...should get a message that the control is testing...then it should start.

You will need to re-enter your settings for file transfer, and reset the measuring units if you want inches....

Also all stored programs will be lost...

Not sure this will do any good, but its worth a try.
Cheers Ross

Thanks ! I'll keep in touch if I've further results.

Did the procedure (all batteries are OK).
Changed the RS232 settings to what I had.
Behaviour of the machine didn't change ; FP84 error shortly after the green button.
Because I had one spare SPS input card I changed them one by one , but tot no avail.
Then noticed that two orange powersupply led's of the SPS NEA90 cards are not lit.
On one of the cards the top led is on and on the other NEA90 card the bottom one.
Seems that part of the 24V power is gone on the NEA90 cards.

Gr.
Sander

Check all the fuses ...Those in the PC and those on the NSV board....
Cheers Ross

Checked a lot of things but still get error fp84.
The 24v leds that where off, come on with pressing the green button on the control.
Will continue to search.

Hi , looking at an older thread of Henk from the netherlands.
He had similar trouble with FP xx codes that didn't match the machine configuration.
Then it pointed to a fault in the NPP90 board of the sps.
That could also be the cause in my case.
The FP84 error make's no sense on my machine and everything else looks ok.
Would be handy if I could swap this board with one of a running similar machine.
Borrowing will be trouble some I think.
Henk did sell the machine , for what I know.