Manuals or tutorials for a DMU 50 DECKEL MAHO CNC with HEIDENHAIN iTCN 530 controller

We have a DMU 50 DECKEL MAHO CNC with HEIDENHAIN iTCN 530 controller in our university:




I need to do some machining but our technicians do not help me and also refuse to teach me how to use. I was wondering if there are some manuals or tutorials so I can learn how to use it. I know CAD very well. I'm familiar with machining (milling, lathe ...) and I know a little bit of G-code. Thanks for your help in advance.

P.S. I have also asked this question here in reddit

fsfarimani said:

I need to do some machining but our technicians do not help me and also refuse to teach me how to use.

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The technicians have a boss. Go talk to that person, and ask for help.

ballen said:

The technicians have a boss. Go talk to that person, and ask for help.

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Well, it is off topic but: I am actually in the process of filing a complaint, however it is rather complicated. Here in the Netherlands, especially in the public sector like universities, people with permanent contracts can't be supervised that much. This particular guy for example starts work at 10:30 and has a lunch break for 1 hour and a couple of other coffee breaks for at least 20 min. He doesn't give a damn if such an expensive machine, paid by taxpayers to be used for educational and scientific purposes, is wasted. Socialism in practice!

There will be documentation on heidenhains website, user manuals etc

The machine can take Gcode but native conversational might be more useful.

Problem with a 5 axis is you just cannot walk up and make parts

Not to say they tech is acting correctly, but it is kind of like someone with a learners permit[IOW has never driven before] asking for the keys to a new Ferrari.

Read the TNC530 programming manual, there is a quick start guide that shows you the basics. All should be at the web site.

You ought to be able to figure out how to make some simple 3 axis parts, drill a few holes.

Learn how to get the machine powered up and enabled[you will need a DMG manual for that] and when the tech sees you moving the thing around he may become more interested

For future refrence:

1. They offer an online course [here](HIT – HEIDENHAIN Interactieve Training - programmeercursus via zelfstudie)

2. and a simulator where you can practice [here](Home: Software - HEIDENHAIN)

fsfarimani said:

Here in the Netherlands, especially in the public sector like universities, people with permanent contracts can't be supervised that much.

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I don't believe that. If this guy is a technician on a permanent public work contract, then he will have a supervisor who is responsible for setting his priorities and evaluating his work. Identify that person and talk with them.

ballen said:

I don't believe that. If this guy is a technician on a permanent public work contract, then he will have a supervisor who is responsible for setting his priorities and evaluating his work. Identify that person and talk with them.

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It is hard to believe, but it is the bitter reality that Dutch taxpayer has no idea about.

ballen said:

If this guy is a technician on a permanent public work contract, then he will have a supervisor who is responsible for setting his priorities and evaluating his work. Identify that person and talk with them.

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I have identified the higher decision makers and trying to report this. But not an easy task as they are also a little bit careless!

I will take the wrap of being an A** Ho*e here....I am with your technicians...
Too much machine to start out on for my money.....

In my shop a nub would need some formal schooling like completion of a community college course or two before having a go on that machine, and then only with some real time specific instruction.
Easy to get into trouble there...fast rapids tool changer the works....Manuals are good, but the pages turn lots slower than that machine moves.....A single crash could easily kill a $40,000 spindle cartridge.

Best solution to me seems to get the decision maker to allot an amount of time that the technician devotes to your project work, and that you would work with him (the tech) to
run what you need.....
Would give you some exposure to the machine and its use ...while letting the experienced man do the nuts and bolts running....

In the industrial world , designers and engineers do not make parts and their time on the shop floor is quite limited....at least in my experience.

Cheers Ross

fsfarimani said:

I have identified the higher decision makers and trying to report this.

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I do not suggest that you "report this". I suggest that you talk with them, and convince them that it would make sense for you to learn to use the machine, and that it would be a good idea to have the technicians help you with that.