Thread: Minor transport damage Deckel KF1 - souce of parts? General value of attachments?

Thanks for reading. I just got home with a Deckel KF1 and in transit the strap and cord meant to immobilize the head vibrated loose on the jointed highway and the pulley driven by the motor chewed up the composite plastic/fibreglass pulley on the top of the cutter spindle. The gentleman from whom I bought it said he thought a company with a name something like "Grinding Technology/Technologies" was selling OEM Deckel parts, but when I ran a search, didn't see anything. Any ideas?

As part of the package, I got a couple of attachments and was wondering whether anyone could opine on what they might sell for if I find I don't need them:

Roughing spindle (I have a FP2LB and a Bridgeport vertical mill, so I don't see myself doing much roughing on the KF1.)

"Circle Attachment" makes perfect circles or tilt it and it make ellipses - waiting on the manual to see what else it will do.

Enlarger/Reducer joint spindle attachment.

Thanks again.

Keep the circle attachment
In fact keep all the attachments
They don`t bring that much
For parts perhaps Singer can help but if it is a simple part I would make my own

Peter from Holland

Thanks, Peter. It is a simple part - just a small sheave - which I could readily reproduce in aluminum, but since the spindle it sits atop is supposed to run up to 20,000 RPM, I thought there may be a reason it's made of some light composite material and that even a slight imbalance might generate unacceptable vibration.

On the attachments, I imagine you're right. The circle attachment is a beautifully made piece of mechanical jewelry. On the few times I may need it, I'll probably be glad I kept it. I also got the roll engraving attachment with a box full of gears, so much to play with, much to figure out!

Just in case someone hits this thread looking for Deckel pantograph parts I'll give you the long answer. The 70 year young gentleman I bought my KF1 from had purchased parts in the past from the now defunct company "Grinder Technologies" which passed off the support of Deckel pantographs to DMG America, Inc. I called DMG and was told that as of April, 2010, they no longer supported Deckel pantographs (though they still support Deckel grinders) and referred me to http://www.gefie.de/english/ The caption on that page states they are "the exclusive suppliers of Deckel spare parts for engraving and copy milling machines from the series KF, Gk and G1L." Unfortunately, the parts search function isn't particularly helpful or I haven't figured out how to use it.

Anybody have a KF1 parts manual who could look up something for me?

Here you have the manuals : Deckel KF1-12, KF2, KF3

Best regards
Søren

Soren, Thank you so much for the link, but I couldn't find the part I'm looking for there. I did find the manual to a Deckel grinder I have, which I very much appreciate. I have an operating and parts manual for a Deckel FP2-L or FP2-LB, which I did not see on the list of Deckel manuals available. I have the operating manual scanned and could have the parts manual done as well - do you think Enfield would like to ad that to his collection?

Well, I finally got tired of looking at the crippled machine sitting there in my shop, so I started looking for a replacement pulley. I contacted Hubert Fiedler/GFIE near Stuttgart, Germany via the web site contact above. They have the pulley I need but will not sell it to someone outside of Germany and ship it - I have to find someone to buy it there and ship it to me, and they are asking EU 507 or $656 for it.

I thought I'd appeal to the folks here and see if anyone had any suggestions or knew of a parts machine . . . Here are a couple of shots of the machine and the pulley for reference. Thanks!





The part number per the manual I have is 3031 001104 and according to the firm in Germany, it's 30312500110400

Originally Posted by ChipChaff

By the looks of that material it seems to be bakelite/phenolic laminated composite. It should be quite easily available via plastic distributors.... But I would not see that much of a problem making it from a aluminium. The difference of densities between general bakelite (density 1,36g/cm³) and general aluminium alloy (2,7g/cm³) is so small that if the part is totally symmetric it does not matter. 20k RPM is not THAT much after all...

Stop fretting over all this and just make a new part already. Use aluminum or whatever is laying around. That's why you have machines. To make stuff.

Alan