Thread: Schaublin 213 deviding head collets

Right now I have a Schaublin 213
I mentioned that earlier in a post( Schaublin 213 Anybody worked with one of these )on the Schaublin subforum but I better had it posted over here at the euro milling machines
Any way It came with a dividing head with a hollow spindle which adapts collets
So collets W20 fit but then the original drawbar is way to short, say 20-30mm W20 collets do fit the ground surface inside the spindlebore
So my question, is there a extended W20 collet of some kind or do I have to make a new drawbar or modify the existing one and keep wondering why it came with this drawbar

This dividing head is Schaublin I know for sure as it has the polygon shaft to adapt the gears for spiral milling which also came with my Schaublin 135 lathe I have right now
It also came with a turntable (see picture)
My second question is if this is a schaublin table or not

peter from holland

Peter

I don't have the answer to your drawbar question, but your rotary table is 100% Schaublin for sure.

You're lucky to have the tailstock with your dividing head since it is pretty rare. At least, I've seen several dividing heads for sale over the years, but I there's only one auction I can recall, where the tailstock was included.

Hello T

The tailstock (along with the machine) is for sale so here is your chance

But thanks for the conformation for the turntable

Peter from Holland

Peter

For the moment I'm on something much bigger...

I just edited my previous post to add a view of the dividing head, taken from Schaublin litterature.

There is another dividing head that doesn't have the shaft and gearing for helical milling. Otherwise it is the same design, center height, tailstock, etc. I suspect the drawbar you have is for the simpler dividing head. How that came to be, I can't tell of course. I'll look up the literature and post it in a little while. It may have the drawbar lengths listed.

FWIW - I have three 50mm quills (cartridge spindles) that interchange on fixtures between my 102 and my 12 mill. They all have a "Schaublin" drawbar. There is nothing to betray, for example, that one quill is Habegger or Mikron or some other Swiss brand. Yet the drawbars---and their corresponding spindles---differ in length by as little as 10mm. I havelearned some questions have no answers with the Swiss!

Originally Posted by T. NGUYEN BINH

Peter

For the moment I'm on something much bigger...

I just edited my previous post to add a view of the dividing head, taken from Schaublin litterature.

Bigger, Moneywise or sizewise
Sizewise is not a big deal but moneywise ???
Did you check the prises of a machine like this at Haessig

Peter from Holland

Originally Posted by peterve

Bigger, Moneywise or sizewise
Sizewise is not a big deal but moneywise ???

Bigger sizewise AND pricewise...
but then we were only talking about the tailstock weren't we ?
I don't play in the same league...

Originally Posted by peterve

...So collets W20 fit but then the original drawbar is way to short, say 20-30mm W20 collets do fit the ground surface inside the spindlebore
So my question, is there a extended W20 collet of some kind or do I have to make a new drawbar...

Could it be that it takes P20 collets rather than W20? These are internally threaded (either M10 or M12, can't remember). Does an internally threaded W20 drawbar actually fit down the spindle?

On the 13 machine, the P20 collets fit both the vertical head (when turned upside down) and the dividing head.

What spindle taper is in the machine: ISO30 or ISO40? I see you have some collets that fit this taper.

The drawbar fits the W20 collets It is only too short
It overall lenght is long enough that I can turn back the shoulder
It all seems so original(hardened and all) that i keep wondering how it was ment originaly

This is a Iso 40 taper BTW

Peter from Holland