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Old 10-20-2009, 05:47 AM
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Default Action time! (Moving a MAHO MH500C)

Sooo...

Finally I got some time over to focus at the MAHO MH500C I purchased a couple of month ago.

I've got a very skilled guy that will do all the lifting and transportation of the machine, but like to her with you experts first if anything special is to be taken care of before we start?

So from (the very little) I have found its only to "slide a approx 800m long, 50mm dia bar through the machine, attach some slings and lift..."

I'm not absolute certin about the dimension as I found them regarding similar sized Deckels but this is a part I feel pretty comfortable about to solve on site if (read: when) any problem will arise.

1. Should one detache the control swing arm entirely or is i appropiate to just fold it in close to the machine and lock it in place? (If there is any lock screw present as on the Deckels that is.)

2. Support the controls from below with som wood I guess?

3. Remove any of the electronic cards to give them a nicer ride home? (20-30min drive on good roads.)

4 Support the Y (MAHO Y) in any way?

5 Place the axis in any given position? (May be hard since hydraulics messing with me and I'm not sure about the possibility to move the axis manually.)

6. Anything else I have totaly forgotten?

I know, I write way to much , but a real bummer to mess it up now, coming this far.

Thanks in advance!

Time to soon I hope.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:18 AM
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I've never moved that particular Maho model, but Maho mills are hard to deal with due to narrow base and so much "stuff" hanging off each side. (in contrast my Maho MH800C was easy...due to steel framework undereath)

1. Some folks do detach the control arm, but I never have except on the MH800C..and only did it for that as it would have been overwidth for trucking otherwise.
2. Yeah or use small nylon strap to tie it to upper part of the machine
3. Nah, truck will probably be air ride anyway
4. Nope...oh wait...if you mean what is normally the Z in other machines...see 5...
5. Only to keep vertical axis from moving all the way down and beyond limit switches (in which case control hydraulics will not energize and you'll have to move axis up with wrench manually...a PITA on that axis.
6. Yes, but I don't know what it is Seems like on my Maho MH500e I had to block up the electrical box on left side to help keep machine from tipping over in transit, but the older 500C machines like you have may be different in that regard
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:59 AM
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Milacron, you are the best!

And I have'nt forgotten about my "whats under the hat"-mission.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:37 AM
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Any one out there that can confirm that a 50mm dia bar, about 800mm long, will fit the lifting hole in the MH500C?

If not, what is the proper sized bar?
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:29 AM
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Any one out there that can confirm that a 50mm dia bar, about 800mm long, will fit the lifting hole in the MH500C?

If not, what is the proper sized bar?
Here again, can only offer advice on the 1986 and newer vintage Maho's but a 50mm bar would easily have fit the MH600e. In photo below I used a forged pinch bar, which was obviously much smaller than 50mm but the hole in the side gives you some idea of potential size bar.





And no, that is not me in this picture !! (I'm holding the camera )
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:50 AM
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Yepp, thats (some) of the pictures I have taken a look at.

Seems like the "Her-Im-moving-my-small-MAHO-mill-in-and-out-of-the-garage"-pictures aint the most common favorites to have in the "household camera", squeezed in between Uncle Bob and youre honey moon pics...

But as one can see, its doable even with a smaller rod of steel.

I will go for the 50mm...or what else I can get my hands on and find appropriate.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:12 AM
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But as one can see, its doable even with a smaller rod of steel.
Yes but only if forged steel. That rod would have bent like a bananna if regular steel rod...but 50mm regular steel should be fine.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:52 AM
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Any one out there that can confirm that a 50mm dia bar, about 800mm long, will fit the lifting hole in the MH500C?

If not, what is the proper sized bar?
Yes, 50mm bar seems to be enough. The hole in my 1982 MH500C is 60mm and I think that the 800mm is long enough to get it lifted properly.
I moved my machine with manual pallet truck under machine and used a tail lift behind the truck to get it on the truck.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:45 AM
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Thank you RoadSportman.

OT: You dont happen to drive in the Finnish Roadsport Racing Series?
Fantastic cars and...wild!

If you have a home page, pictures or any other information about your machine you would like to share, I would really appreciate it.

And for you whos not familiar with the swedish/finnish word for a pallet lift, may bee a bit confused when we recall to a "truck" when moving stuff around in the work shop.
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:00 PM
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And for you whos not familiar with the swedish/finnish word for a pallet lift, may bee a bit confused when we recall to a "truck" when moving stuff around in the work shop.
The most common term for that in USA is pallet jack, but sometimes pallet truck is used. Forklifts are sometimes fork trucks or lift trucks. It seems we can't really decide what to call things over here sometimes.
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Old 10-23-2009, 08:58 AM
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The most common term for that in USA is pallet jack, but sometimes pallet truck is used. Forklifts are sometimes fork trucks or lift trucks. It seems we can't really decide what to call things over here sometimes.

Aha!

Didn't know that. Thought that a truck always was...a pick up truck or something similar in the US.

Now I know better.
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:51 PM
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Thank you RoadSportman.

OT: You dont happen to drive in the Finnish Roadsport Racing Series?
Fantastic cars and...wild!

If you have a home page, pictures or any other information about your machine you would like to share, I would really appreciate it.
OT: Yes I do, I have old toyota ae86 that I drive.

Sorry but I donīt have much pictures as I just bougtht the machine couple months ago. I can post some pictures later.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:28 AM
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OT: Yes I do, I have old toyota ae86 that I drive.

Sorry but I donīt have much pictures as I just bougtht the machine couple months ago. I can post some pictures later.

Great to hear that!
Then we are in to the same "bussines".

If you think I can help you out in any way, please dont hesitate to contact me via PM, mail or any other way you like. But most likely its me who will ask you about the most basic stuff...

Maybe you even talk swedish?

Love to see more of youre machine as well as youre racecar.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:07 AM
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And home she is!

Pictures later I hope.

Thank you everyone for all your support.
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