AB Tools, Inc. makers of the Shear-Hog wants feed back

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AlfredLyon

Aluminum

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May 30, 2014

Location

Rosville, CA, USA

• Jul 21, 2014

• #1

Hello PM community,

AB Tools has been manufacturing special rotary cutting tools since 1977. I have been working for them for 27 years. I recently joined Instagram , and I know that many of you are not thrilled with social media. While on there I was told to check out PM and I think it is great. The machinist community coming together to learn and teach is just great.

So if anybody has used any of our cutters please chime in, good or bad.

I'll leave you with a link to a youtube video of some of our in stock cutters . Sorry but there is no sound, I don't know why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUR_urA-4OA

Thanks, Alfred
Grinding supervisor

 

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ewlsey

Diamond

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Jul 14, 2009

Location

Peoria, IL

• Jul 21, 2014

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I've had great luck with AB tools customs, indexable and brazed carbide.

I wish you guys made PCD form tools.

I was pretty unimpressed with the shear hog. There are much better tools out there for aluminum.

 

allloutmx

Titanium

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Mar 6, 2013

Location

Rochester, NY

• Jul 21, 2014

• #3

ewlsey said:

I've had great luck with AB tools customs, indexable and brazed carbide.

I wish you guys made PCD form tools.

I was pretty unimpressed with the shear hog. There are much better tools out there for aluminum.

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1-agreed
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3-talk is cheap Wesssssssssss, especially without name dropping

 

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ewlsey

Diamond

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Location

Peoria, IL

• Jul 21, 2014

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I used to work in an aluminum foundry. I'd say 80% of the "milling" done to a casting is face milling. Face milling castings really sucks. The castings are inconsistent, so your theoretical .1" DOC can become .4" because some yahoo forgot to cut the gate in the right spot.

Also, castings are usually thin and hard to hold onto. That means they can vibrate and that is hell on inserts.

We tried a few PCD mills, but the silicon inclusions in the castings just destroyed the inserts and it got too costly to replace them. The best mills we used were from Walter. They had a DLC coating and 4 edges on the inserts. They could do everything but ramp.

For ramping and slotting, Seco and Iscar make really nice inserts mills for aluminum. Sumitomo and Mitsubishi are also very good in this area. These tools are very similar to the Ripper Mill sold by exkenna.

 

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AlfredLyon

Aluminum

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Location

Rosville, CA, USA

• Jul 21, 2014

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ewlsey said:

I've had great luck with AB tools customs, indexable and brazed carbide.

I wish you guys made PCD form tools.

I was pretty unimpressed with the shear hog. There are much better tools out there for aluminum.

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I'm sorry that you were unhappy with it. Sometimes , and it may not be so in your case, people don't feed it hard enough. Depending on your machines available hp at the spindle , the shear-hog has tested very well against other similar cutters by impartial users. Also we have many sizes and styles and while one might not work for you, another might. I'm not going to try to convince you since you have used one then you are the best judge. If you should like to try a different style please contact [email protected] and perhaps we can send you a trial cutter no charge?

I am happy that you have had success with other cutters from us and i hope you keep us in mind the next time you need something special.

 

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azjoshb

Plastic

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May 11, 2014

Location

Gilbert, AZ, USA

• Jul 21, 2014

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The shear hog has saved us a lot of time roughing out aluminum. Granted, I have never used other indexable aluminum cutters, besides a mitsubishi, and the shear hog (1 inch) beats it out.

 

Kingbob

Stainless

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Dec 1, 2009

Location

Louisiana

• Oct 28, 2014

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I am running one of your tools right now! But you already know that Lol #funwithfixturing

 

wheelieking71

Diamond

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Jan 2, 2013

Location

Gilbert, AZ

• Oct 28, 2014

• #8

I love my AB Tools picitinny rail cutter! Didn't like paying for it. But, sure glad I did! It tripled production instantly.

 

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Limy Sami

Diamond

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Jan 7, 2007

Location

Norfolk, UK

• Oct 28, 2014

• #9

Nice one Alfred ......do / will you ship to the UK?

Thanks

Sami

 

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Terry Z

Cast Iron

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Aug 10, 2012

Location

Gurnee ILL. USA

• Oct 29, 2014

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I got your single flute 1.0 diameter cutter from Colmar (Aaron) and used it to rough a 2 ft X 4 ft X 1-1/2 ft block of aluminum and semi finish it was a JOY to watch. VERY impressed with your tool. Thank You.

 

Richard King

Diamond

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Jul 12, 2005

Location

Cottage Grove, MN 55016

• Oct 29, 2014

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Do you make a cutter for roughing and finishing new or raw Cast Iron Castings on a Knee Type vertical mill Mill? I will gladly test one for you :-) Rich

 

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Scruffy887

Titanium

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Dec 17, 2012

Location

Se Ma USA

• Oct 29, 2014

• #12

I have a 2" shear hog and it fills the chip bin so fast I had to get 4 Rubbermaid large wheeled trash containers to keep up with it. It would be a real PITA for me to use it without a chip conveyor.

 

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AlfredLyon

Aluminum

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May 30, 2014

Location

Rosville, CA, USA

• Oct 29, 2014

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Yes. Cc purchase direct. [email protected] 866-440-8665

 

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AlfredLyon

Aluminum

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Rosville, CA, USA

• Oct 29, 2014

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Limy Sami said:

Nice one Alfred ......do / will you ship to the UK?

Thanks

Sami

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Yes with cc purchase direct [email protected] 866-440-8665

 

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AlfredLyon

Aluminum

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Rosville, CA, USA

• Oct 29, 2014

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Richard King said:

Do you make a cutter for roughing and finishing new or raw Cast Iron Castings on a Knee Type vertical mill Mill? I will gladly test one for you :-) Rich

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Nothing stock except for maybe out spot-dex cutters and our dexi-mills from our catalog AB Tools Inc - Manufacturing High Performance Rotary Cutting Tools since 1977

We can make full specials in 5-7 business days if you have something in mind.

 

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Limy Sami

Diamond

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Norfolk, UK

• Oct 29, 2014

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AlfredLyon said:

Yes with cc purchase direct [email protected] 866-440-8665

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Thankyou Alfred - I've a quote needing specials out at the moment so am keeping my fingers crossed.

 

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AlfredLyon

Aluminum

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Rosville, CA, USA

• Oct 30, 2014

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wheelieking71 said:

I love my AB Tools picitinny rail cutter! Didn't like paying for it. But, sure glad I did! It tripled production instantly.

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I'm glad you like it! We have made variations of that cutter for years. Once I got on instagram Ken Spaulding , owner of Zodiac Engineering, told me I should stock those. Sounded like a good idea and now we've sold a few.