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    I'd a long history of prostate related issues. Lack of flow, slow starting to pee, slow to finish, urgency sometimes when I'd be bursting right out of nowhere. I suffered from bouts of prostatitis for a while, especially in winter, which weren't pleasant.

    I was having regular PSA tests over the years and the Autimn before last the score went to a point were I needed to have a biopsy. This revealed I had what my specialist described as "very low risk " ( 5 % ) cancer but my prostate was greatly enlarged. Only 1 of the biopsy samples was cancerous out of 13. He advised " active monitoring " but left the decision to me. That means a PSA test every 3 months and a biopsy every year. I decided to follow his advice.

    That went OK until the end of March last year. We'd been out with friends for a meal and stayed over at their home. I got up during the night for a pee and nothing happened ! A very scary moment indeed. We packed and left for home right away and my first stop was at our local A&E were I was cathetered.

    After that it was back to the specialist for further advice. I tried having the catheter removed after about 2 weeks but still no pee. I was given several options but obviously something had to be done. I could have had the prostate cored out but that could have caused complications if I needed to have the complete prostate removed at a later date if the cancer became more of a threat.

    By this time our summer holidays had arrived and my wife was desperate a break having had a really traumatic year. So we put every thing on hold until September when we would be back from Spain. Off we went with a suitcase full of catheters , leg bags, flip-flow valves etc.

    When I got back home I saw the surgeon with a view to the next step. He arranged for MRI scans and bone scans just to check the cancer hadn't spread. Mr Sharma is a vastly experienced guy with a brilliant reputation in my area. When I asked him how many prostates he'd removed in the past he just said " Thousands, two a week for the last twenty years, work it out for yourself ".

    So that was all arranged and I just waited for my appointment with the knife. The plan was for the op to be done just before Xmas but with one thing and another it was delayed by a month.

    Given the pressure on the NHS I actually had the operation at a private hospital not far from where I live. The treatment was excellent and the whole thing went smoothly. My pal in the opposite bed had was a young (56) electrician and we got on really well. His problem was he had 30 % cancer and he'd made enquiries about paying for the operation as he was concerned about the 2 or 3 months wait for the op. He was told it would cost £17,000 but he would only have to wait 2 weeks. Same place, same surgeon, same op.

    The procedure itself took about 2 hours followed by an 1.5 hours in the recovery room.

    Without wanting to be political thanks to the NHS the whole of my treatment has cost me nothing. Other than my monthly National Insurance contributions over the last 45 years or so of course.

    I'll keep everyone informed as to my progress in the future.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triumph406 View Post
    I guess the upside is no more digital examinations.
    Depending on how you swing?. But seriously, once you hit 50, its about time to drop all pride, and accept a digit up the date.

    Rumour has it even Elvis took one for the country, late March 1958.

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    Whilst i can get how a catheters a pain and not the most comfortable, surely not being able to pee is way way worse, this is coming from a 35 year old thats got no family history of this stuff, but at least based on my personnel experience, when you need to pee you need to pee, kinda hard to imagine theres worse than that???

    Think the key thing to take from most of the PM threads on health issues is get second opinions and do your own digging on the subject, if for no reason other than getting a better grasp of it and at worse preventing big issues. Seams that few doc's have the commitment to there fields that most on a forum like this do when it comes to staying upto date with best approaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronf View Post
    When I get checked I always ask the doc to use two fingers so I have a second opinion
    Does he charge you twice as much?

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    Hi Tyrone,

    Sorry to hear about your prostate issues. I wish you a speedy and full recovery. It sure sounds like you are in very good hands.

    Cheers....

    Brian Coyle

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    It's kinda, well, foolish(?) how there are so many comments even on this thread over the DRE. I mean...aren't we all adults? When I go to the doctor - a real doctor and not one of those Korean girls in little China with the Red Cross outfit on that we all love so much - I don't care what he/she does or sees. It's their job. I'm just not that embarrassed about my butthole, nor do I feel I should be.

    My mother in law, when she visits, refuses to take a shower in a certain bathroom because high up - maybe 9 feet - is a small clear glass window. It would be nearly impossible for anyone to see her 78 year old ass naked even if they tried, and they wouldn't. Especially considering I live in a fairly secluded area to boot. I look at her and I wonder when she will grow up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Hard, really HARD to fathom that there wasn't enough advance over those 25 years for some sort of corrective surgery.

    Then again, it's the USA, and maybe he'd already lost his house and life savings.

    Bladders are tricky things.

    Dad was diagnosed with cancer 19 years ago. Tumor at that time invaded the bladder. Just a tiny incision by a world class surgeon. Meanwhile, he still spent the last ten years of his life self cathing....and trying every state of the art treatment along the way in world class facilities.

    Even with all of the advances, there's still lots of things medicine can't do unfortunately.


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    Quote Originally Posted by triumph406 View Post
    I guess the upside is no more digital examinations.
    Nope, those will continue during check ups, esp. if your PSA shows up again (aka they didn't get it all). This might not show until years later depending on what other treatment they are giving you. .eg. if they have you on Zolodex then you won't know if there is 0 psa until a year after you come off it.

    (speaking from personal experience)

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    Tyrone,
    Glad to hear it went well, 2 hours is a short operation, most are 4-6 hours.

    Re: leakage or potential thereof: find a local pelvic therapist. While others here have suggested kegel exercises as important for control, they are not as simple to do as might seem. Plus men are built differently from women, for whom most of the online descriptions are geared.

    Myself I started exercises on guidance by therapist 6 weeks after surgery. There were about 8-10 in total when done training for 7 months. Depending on the skill of your surgeon, how much they had to remove and your own body, the exercises will result in 0 to some leakage. Reading the operation report should give you a cleared idea of what was done. Heavy lifting makes it worse as expected.

    Erectile function will depend on whether they removed the nerves or not during the operation. While the surgeon may say that they tried to save the nerves, it may or may not have happened or worked. If you are on Zolodex or equiv there will be no function until months after you come off that. Post operative unction has 0 to do with prior ability.

    in Toronto I only had to wait 2 weeks for the operation, only cost was parking at the hospital :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregSY View Post
    I'm just not that embarrassed about my butthole, nor do I feel I should be.

    My mother in law, when she visits, refuses to take a shower in a certain bathroom because high up - maybe 9 feet - is a small clear glass window. It would be nearly impossible for anyone to see her 78 year old ass naked even if they tried
    Not sure about your butt hole or my own as to weather its something i should be embarrassed about or you.

    When it comes to ass though, according to my partner who is a carer and sees several thousand accumulative years of ass a day its one of the last bits of the body to age and go wrinkly, hence it may be the best feature on your 78 year old mother in law! Hence she may well be right to be concerned (disclaimer this is not based on first hand info, i do not look at old asses, but just thought it pretty sup rising its the last bit of you to age noticeably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adama View Post
    Not sure about your butt hole or my own as to weather its something i should be embarrassed about or you.

    When it comes to ass though, according to my partner who is a carer and sees several thousand accumulative years of ass a day its one of the last bits of the body to age and go wrinkly, hence it may be the best feature on your 78 year old mother in law! Hence she may well be right to be concerned (disclaimer this is not based on first hand info, i do not look at old asses, but just thought it pretty sup rising its the last bit of you to age noticeably.
    Ah.. well. HAS to stay in good tune.

    It ain't exactly as if your coondingie can go off on a 3-month unaccompanied-tour holiday, now is it?

    Gets exercised reg'lar, so long as one eats reg'lar, and the whole show stops fair soon after either of those do. IOW - it ain't got TIME to get old. And was already sorta wrinkly, so who'd notice, anyway?

    Now the twelve o'clock orifice counterpart to that six o'clock one?

    May indeed improve with age like expensive cigars or fine wine.

    So long as they don't end up tasting or smelling the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daryl bane View Post
    Unfortunately, when they did my biopsy, there was no drugs or nuthin'. It felt like shooting a dildo/nailgun(sorry but that is what it was) up my ass, like what 13 times? One of the most unpleasant things ever maybe except that tracheotomy...that was bad.
    Yep, that's the general effect all right. But when I went in, the urologist introduced me to "the nice anesthesiologist from our group"
    who does the propofol thing during all the biopsies. Only side effect was some blood in urine for a few days.

    It's a very accurate nail gun, like you, mine was 13 samples, identified as from which quandrant they came from.

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    Recently had some borderline test results, plus minor symptoms, so the prudent next step was biopsy. (Cancer-free results, thankfully.) Numbing gel was administered, so not terribly painful, just unpleasant. Biopsy suite technology included a computer that overlaid previous imagery with localized ultrasound, in order to guide the efforts of the biops-er. However, that computer ran Windows 10, and it was the day after an (automatic) update that didn't go well. So, I'm lying there with 6 people in a room sized for 3, ultrasound transducer conveniently lodged, waiting thru multiple re-boots for 45 minutes while they proved that Windows is truly a pain in the ass. No joke, either.

    When/if that time comes, though, they've got a dozen DaVinci robots lined up ready to go. Side benefit of living 3 miles from a great cancer hospital.

    Hang in there, guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    Only side effect was some blood in urine for a few days.
    Just tell 'em it was Killians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip Chester View Post
    However, that computer ran Windows 10, and it was the day after an (automatic) update that didn't go well. So, I'm lying there with 6 people in a room sized for 3, ultrasound transducer conveniently lodged, waiting thru multiple re-boots for 45 minutes while they proved that Windows is truly a pain in the ass. No joke, either.


    Chip
    Similar experience during radiation treatment, except it was Linux system that needed rebooting. They assured me that the beam was off during the reboot. No OS is immune to issues at inopportune times.

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    UncleFrank he was still laughing when I left, he said no charge.

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    Oh how I'd like to sit down and have a long talk with the designers of the human body, seems to me the whole caboodle's out of kilter, i'd start the ball rolling with.

    Testicles - I know what they're for, but to leave em hanging where they're so open to damage?

    Prostrate - not sure what it's for but it's not a lotta cop.

    Appendix - ditto.

    Erection - too unreliable.

    Joints - Sealed for life is no good, need Zerks and a regular lube schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monarchist View Post
    Just tell 'em it was Killians.
    Yeah, there was blood somewhere else too. Also predicted by the aftercare instructions. But this did
    catch us somewhat by suprise, given that it was several days later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Oh how I'd like to sit down and have a long talk with the designers of the human body, seems to me the whole caboodle's out of kilter, i'd start the ball rolling with.


    Testicles - I know what they're for, but to leave em hanging where they're so open to damage?

    Prostrate - not sure what it's for but it's not a lotta cop.

    Appendix - ditto.

    Erection - too unreliable.

    Joints - Sealed for life is no good, need Zerks and a regular lube schedule.
    God’s answer:

    Testicles - I know what they're for, but to leave em hanging where they're so open to damage? "Well, when I created the little wigglers I found they were sensitive to temperature so I had to do a fix. Wrinkly skin seemed like a good way at the time to keep them at temp. Besides, I offset the problem by making it feel good to have the ladies fondle them."

    Prostrate - not sure what it's for but it's not a lotta cop. "Hey I had to think of some way to carry the wiggelers from the "boys" to the lady. The pee didn't seem like a good idea so I came up with this milky stuff. "

    Appendix - ditto. "We all make mistakes"

    Erection - too unreliable. "Not my problem, The warrantee on them is only for 30 years . "And quit crying, I later made up for it later by giving you the "Blue pill".
    Last edited by scadvice; 01-20-2018 at 05:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limy Sami View Post
    Oh how I'd like to sit down and have a long talk with the designers of the human body, seems to me the whole caboodle's out of kilter, i'd start the ball rolling with.

    Testicles - I know what they're for, but to leave em hanging where they're so open to damage?

    Prostrate - not sure what it's for but it's not a lotta cop.

    Appendix - ditto.

    Erection - too unreliable.

    Joints - Sealed for life is no good, need Zerks and a regular lube schedule.
    If you hadn't already twigged to it, and it seems you HAVE done.. on the evidence, the human genome was some poor Student's Graduate thesis in a far more advanced civilization.

    He did not get a passing grade.

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