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    My recent PSA has caused my doctor concern to the point that he has referred me to a Urologist. Reading this thread has been sobering to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjrepesh View Post
    My recent PSA has caused my doctor concern to the point that he has referred me to a Urologist. Reading this thread has been sobering to say the least.
    Better that than ignoring it and wishing things would just go away.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packardbill View Post
    After about 2 years of getting up to pee, one time a night at first, then twice a night, then 3 times, I knew it was time to do something.
    i get up 2 or three times a night to pee also. glad of it. just think if i didn't get up to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cg285 View Post
    i get up 2 or three times a night to pee also. glad of it. just think if i didn't get up to do it.
    That's not a good sign. I didn't really have that problem to be honest. However I did have weak flow, slow starting, finding it difficult to really finish. Any of those symptoms ?

    Regards Tyrone.

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    I had that problem, Cialis took care of it mostly. Down to once a night but finding it difficult to fall asleep after.
    Getting too damn old.
    fusker

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    My doc says the exact opposite - that any "pleasurable discharge of fluid" *lowers" the PSA. Personal experience bears this out.



    Quote Originally Posted by jim rozen View Post
    My PSA spiked to over ten and this lead to a biopsy. Also, family history.

    Do NOT be put off by the stories, they gave me the propofal and put me out for it, zero
    discomfort except for the aftereffects. 13 samples all came back clean. Next go around,
    it was back down below one.

    Important tip here, they do not always tell you this:

    ANY sexual activity before the PSA test can lead to elevated readings! This may have been what happened in my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudd View Post
    My doc says the exact opposite - that any "pleasurable discharge of fluid" *lowers" the PSA. Personal experience bears this out.
    From one study, at 30-40, lowers. Over 50, raises. Look at second to last paragraph before 'Conclusions'.

    Effect of ejaculation on serum prostate specific antigen level in screening and non-screening population

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudd View Post
    My doc says the exact opposite - that any "pleasurable discharge of fluid" *lowers" the PSA. Personal experience bears this out.
    You must have misheard him... Pull up the Mayo or Standford hospital web sites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chip Chester View Post
    From one study, at 30-40, lowers. Over 50, raises. Look at second to last paragraph before 'Conclusions'.

    Effect of ejaculation on serum prostate specific antigen level in screening and non-screening population
    That looks like a pretty small sample size, to me. Only 25 younger men, 35 older men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudd View Post
    My doc says the exact opposite - that any "pleasurable discharge of fluid" *lowers" the PSA. Personal experience bears this out.
    Your urologist disagrees with my urologist. That's the most I can say. OTher than, my PSA spiked, I was biopsied, came out
    cancer negative. Coincidental what both PSA tests were taken shortly after sex.

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    Well, I spoke too soon there. I woke up yesterday to find I could hardly pee at all, the dreaded urinary retention !
    So I went down to my local A&E. 5 minutes walk from my house fortunately. After triage and a wait of a couple of hours I got to see the doc. He tried to replace a catheter twice but failed both times. There was an obstruction. I was in pain by now and pretty worried.

    The A&E people arranged an appointment for me at the nearest specialist urology hospital, North Manchester, 1/2 hrs drive away. So my wife a I set off in the car, I didn't want to wait for an ambulance.

    When we get there nobody is waiting for us as we had been led to believe they would be. More waiting and triage and more waiting. Eventually I was put in a cubicle and a young trainee surgeon came to see me. He was confident he could get the job done, " I've been installing catheters for 4.5 years and I've never failed yet ".

    Well after 1/2 hour of trying with all sorts of catheters he had to admit to his first failure. At this point I was eventually admitted onto a ward and given a bed. I was awaiting the arrival of the No 1 man, the top specialist. I was then told I would have to wait a while for him as he was dealing with an emergency ! I thought my case was an emergency too.

    Over here you have to pay for car parking so It was a constant concern regarding where the car park was from the ward and had we enough change to buy the tickets. This hospital is enormous and hard to find your way around.

    Luckily for me at this point, about 5.30, the senior ward nurse saw the situation I was in and said "If you like I'll have a go a getting a catheter in ". Obviously I said " Be my guest, anything to stop the pain ".

    She came back armed with every catheter known to man and started to work on me. After about 1/2 hr of trying she managed to get a narrow one in and drain my urine. What a relief as I'd been 'Nil By Mouth ' and there had been talk of an operation to drain my bladder through the stomach wall. I didn't fancy that !

    So after a couple of hours of observation on the ward to see my bladder was draining I was allowed to go back home. The top man paid me a flying visit and gave me the ok. So off we went back to the car and a drive home.

    We saw the good and bad of the NHS. By and large the staff are fantastic but really over worked. The paperwork is a massive issue but I suppose it's necessary.
    I was on a 19 bed ward and the bed opposite me held a guy who was a drug addict and alcoholic who'd obviously fallen and banged his head. This guy was a complete pain in the backside and badgered the nurses and staff constantly about all sorts of trivialities. He needed throwing out on the street. From his stories the guy had done nothing for years to contribute to the NHS but wanted everything done for him right away. He was brought burger and fries for his tea and he moaned constantly that they'd run out of vinegar ! The patience of the staff with him was amazing ! He'd obviously no intentions of leaving the hospital and was treating the place like a hotel !

    Anyway I have the catheter removed again in two weeks and we'll see what happens then.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Phew, glad you got sorted, hopefully its time for two steps forward now.
    With recent experience of my nan (93) being in hospital twice in the last 8 months, broken hip each time, the two things that seem constant are 'By and large the staff are fantastic' and 'really over worked'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon73 View Post
    Phew, glad you got sorted, hopefully its time for two steps forward now.
    With recent experience of my nan (93) being in hospital twice in the last 8 months, broken hip each time, the two things that seem constant are 'By and large the staff are fantastic' and 'really over worked'.
    The Ward nurse that finally sorted me out were the young surgeon had failed told me that she qualified in 2005 and for each year of the three years after that she had a pay rise in line with her progression up the ladder.
    Since 2008 she hadn't had a pay rise at all. " But I love the job " she said.

    Regards Tyrone

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    I spoke too soon again about the latest catheter. I was back to North Machester the next day because the bloody thing had got blocked. After an horrendous evening in A&E I in ended up in the operating theatre were they tried to refit a new catheter using a local anaesthetic and a camera. That didn't work so they temporarily drained me using a needle in my bladder through my stomach stomach wall.

    Yesterday morning I was back in the theatre to get a catheter installed using a general anaesthetic ond a bigger and better camera. That worked as far as I know and as of this moment the catheter is working. I'm due to leave hospital today but I need to see the doc first. I'm disappointed with recent developments. It appears that this job is not as straight forward as I was lead to believe.

    I'm not looking for sympathy with this thread. I'm posting so guys who will inevitably follow in my footsteps have a better idea of what to expect and what can happen. Good and bad.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    On the lighter side the reason I didn't get to see the head honcho on Sunday night until about 11.30 was that he was dealing with a real emergency. I later found out from one of the nurses that the " real emergency " was some idiot with a brass ring stuck fast on his cock !

    Give me a " Junior Hacksaw " and that job would have taken me 5 minutes. And the ring would have still been intact.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    OT a little bit:

    I want to say my Prayers are with you . It's hard for me to say that as for much of my life I was an Agnostic. I went to Sunday School as a little kid sort of became a good vs evil sort of believer more then a religion...because of my profession I guess wanting to see true readings and not hope or guess. Over the past 10 years or so when my Mom passed I started to pray more and more. As my Dad said on his deathbed...can't hurt..LOL

    One of my longtime friends wife developed breast cancer and he as I was had serious doubts about what the future holds for us. He had always considered himself Atheist and he was so desperate to help his wife we said he broke down and prayed. He later told me it was like lifting a huge weight of his soul. He and she had good fortune as her lasts tests came back negative.

    You hang in there please and keep on with your positive outlook on life! Rich

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    I'll hang on Rich, no worries. It surprising what you can put up with when you have to.

    Regards Tyrone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
    On the lighter side the reason I didn't get to see the head honcho on Sunday night until about 11.30 was that he was dealing with a real emergency. I later found out from one of the nurses that the " real emergency " was some idiot with a brass ring stuck fast on his cock !

    Give me a " Junior Hacksaw " and that job would have taken me 5 minutes. And the ring would have still been intact.

    Regards Tyrone.
    There was a shaft collar thread here on PM on that, poor sod clearly got the wrong sort must have not been a PM member, you want the double split ones with the two allen bolts to guarantee the easy removal post swelling!!! Fucking amatures!

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    Good luck Tyrone!
    all the best from here in the colonies.
    My great grandfather was from Sheffield.

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    Same to you Mike. I've been following your thread and you will be in my thoughts.

    Regards Tyrone.


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