Yankee;
As to Special Ops ,they still have grease guns and the Shoulder Recoiless last I knew. JABEZKIN
I was referring to the H&K USP45 and the Sig Sauer P220 when I mentioned the .45 cal.
I am a fan of the M-14 as that is what I used for a short time in the M21 SWS in Haiti & Panama in the '80's.
While I enjoy the Armalite in the AR-10 platform more than the M-14, It weighs more than the M-16 / M4. But the bullet can penetrate a block wall and still take out the Haji cowering on the other side. Additionally the 175 grain bullets for the 7.62 are getting the same accuracy as the old stand by load of 168 grains, and puts an ass kicking to the target.
It's been a while since I shot 3-gun comps as a SWAT sniper for Law Enforcement, but my spotter and I's backup rifle was the beautifully tuned AR-10 (T) because it shot the same cartridge as my Remington 700 BDL (Yes, back in the day that is what I was using).
One thing I dislike is in shooting comps, cowboy or tactical, is that the competitors downloaded their ammo for short range accuracy and faster follow up shots. Then they would claim that their great scores were consistant with the caliber of weapon they were using. When in reality the gas gun cartridges were loaded just hot enough to cycle the bolt with the adjustable gas system maxed out, and it was really obvious when the H&K MP-5 shooters were required to attach their suppressors and they had to change load marked mags to get the bolt to cycle.
I always used fully loaded tactical rounds because you practice with what you use on the street.
Ever shoot a .45 LC , 12 ga coach gun, or .45-70 Sharps that has been loaded for cowboy comps? There is almost NO recoil. I am not saying you are doing this with the 6.8, but I witnessed this happening at a comp a few years ago that I was not competing in. Sadly enough it was a Law Enforcement shooter more interested in winning the comp than training for a real life scenario.
I spoke with the SWAT commander about it but it fell on deaf, ignorant ears. He was more concerned with 'high scores' than preparing for the real battle that could come anyday.
Good topic Detroit.