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Thread: Grizzly G9729
10-02-2005, 11:27 AM #1
Like to get some feedback on this piece of equipment. Likes, dislikes, limits, etc. I know it would be better to have individual pieces of equipment. Due to space and money is this a good alternative?
Grizzly G9729 Combo mill/drill/lathe.
10-02-2005, 12:20 PM #2
i owned one...
I liked mine, and it's a great "shop" machine.. just not the best gunsmithing machine
Sold it to a gent working on cars, and I believe he'll have a lifetime of good service from that.
good threading selection
no 4 jaw (this might have changed since i got mine)
main gears are nylon AND a bitch to get to.
mill travel is too short for table. You have to have a fairly tall vise to be able to use the mill
LIGHT (75# including vise) mill table load
Did I mention the gears? Threading with this can/will strip the nylon gears.
2 big complaints
1: impossible to lock mill head square without mods
2: mill quill travel too short compared to rest of machine.
If you get one, build up a fortal spacer to put your vice on, get a 4" aftermarket vise. Buy some import parallels and use them to drill and tap the column so you can bolt the quill square to the table.
10-02-2005, 05:22 PM #3
Save your $$$$$$$ and buy a good lathe , You will need a lathe more than a mill. Most of your mill work can be done by hand.
02-13-2007, 06:33 PM #4
I bought a new one in 2005. I love this machine. I have a friend who was a machinist for over 35 years and has taught me a lot about using both the lathe and mill.
We have built several turkey/ham shoot barrels as well as several turkey chokes and have never had any problems.
I am set up in my garage and still have room for a couple of welders, torches, a Harley, and lots of other tools. It really saves space and works great. It is a pleasure to use.
By the way, a positive attitude and a "can do" approach can overcome some inadequacies in machines and life itself.
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02-14-2007, 02:05 PM #5
I bought mine 5-6 years ago and I absolutely hate it.
I am not a machinist so the inadequacies in the machine were too much for me to handle. I have a hard enough time just trying to figure out the proper way to get something done, much less have to try to work around the limitations of the machine.
I agree with Honeyboy that the inadequacies can be overcome. I just didn't like doing that.
Hope this helps.
02-23-2007, 05:50 AM #6
I had a combo by a sister company of theirs. At the right price the lathe was a serious keeper, I like a big swing, which it had, and it was beefier in many ways than similar sized and priced lathes, though not necesarilly in ways the gunsmith would appreciate. The mill was in the way and too light to be useful.
The majority of these tools seem to follow that pattern. Whatever good one can say about them as individual tools the mill seems to be a missmatch for the lathe it's attached to. The lathe tends to be bigger because it is the base, and it's CS is the mill's table. So you get a decent lathe, but the mill is a joke.
I don't know what a survey would reveal, but my set of interests is such that while I can get by without a mill to some extent, whatever size lathe I have, when I add the mill it tends to need to be a bigger tool, not smaller. I could get by with a 9" lathe and a Bridgeport more easily than a really large lathe and a table top mill.
02-23-2007, 06:04 AM #7
I have one and have done a lot of stuff with it mostly gunsmith projects. It works good for barrel work. you need a 4" swivel base vise to get close to the quill. The mill is fine for small work. It a hell of alot better than what I had before which was no lathe or mill. I haven't had any gear trouble mine must have steel gears cause I have stalled the motor or slipped the belt a few times. Jon
02-23-2007, 12:23 PM #8
I still love my G9729.
If I were going to do production work, I wouldn't have bought this machine. However, for a home-use, hobby machine, I don't think it can be beat. I find it so easy and convenient to use. You need a lot of patience to use any lathe or mill. Some jobs are tricky no matter how good your equipment is. But, that's part of the enjoyment--learnig to figure things out as you go.
Another thing to consider is the people you purchase your equipment from and the services they offer. Grizzly folks have always been super friendly and helpful to me. To me, that means a great deal. They remind of the folks at Brownell's. Every time I have ever dealt with either of these two companies, I felt like I was talking a good friend. They are very cordial and pleasant to deal with. As I said before, that means a great deal to me.
By the way, my G9729 does not have nylon gears. They are steel and seem very durable.
10-16-2016, 11:35 PM #9
Last edited by Johnnybar; 10-16-2016 at 11:38 PM. Reason: old OP
11-13-2016, 02:20 AM #10
Ah what the heck...might as well chime in to this old thread. I love mine for what it is...just know what you are getting which includes knowing it's capabilities and limits before you dive in. I believe mine has all steel gears since it has sheared the roll pin on the lead screw and suffered no permanent damage. I bought mine new straight out of the Missouri warehouse in person and it has paid for itself 15 to 20 times over in net revenue plus produced some very expensive boating/skiing components that saves $$$$ vs retail. Stick with free machining steels and non ferrous metals for happier hours of making chips. Although if you take your time it can handle light cuts in the harder stuff. The biggest weakness that I have noticed is the leadscrew serving as the infeed in addition to the threading feed while using a "half nut" made of brass I suspect. Work a deal for 2 or 3 extra nuts if buying a new one and save the power feed for threading as the nut wears very quickly for routine X axis feeding.
11-13-2016, 08:13 AM #11
No serious machinist wants those things. I have a friend who drives race cars and wanted to get an inexpensive all purpose machine. MSC sells those ."Granite" IIRC. Even they,though they make money selling machines, advised him to stay away from them,missing a sale,of course.
11-13-2016, 08:46 AM #12
I used a griz last week at a customer's shop. Anybody that thinks a griz is acceptable in any way is totally clueless. What a POS!
11-21-2016, 01:49 PM #13
One has to exercise a little good judgement which many do not these days and look at price only. Machine choice depends on what range of jobs are expected and the desired tolerances vs your skill level. It won't chew through deep cuts like heavier machines and it was never intended for production work. But as for my needs, I would not have been served any better over the years by a $5,000 - $12,000 lathe. So, why would I spend several thousand more for no reason...I wouldn't and didn't. I don't over tool it and I use 12L14, brass, aluminum and bronze for most work, take light cuts and use the $12- $15 per part I produce every 5 minutes for other hobbies...usually collectable firearms. If you have no inclination or patience to set up the machine properly, including adjusting all gibs, adjusting spindle bearing preload, correcting any headstock taper( mine had .001" per 8") and leveling properly, you will likely be a "chattering piece of crap" seller quickly.
Last edited by Johnnybar; 11-22-2016 at 05:08 AM. Reason: sp