Low velocity metal?

Monday · Apr 22, 2018

Hello, i though abut doing a .22 CAP (flobert) gun for plinking, and i wounder what material the chamber and barrel has to be made of, to handle the pressure?

Would a ordinary thin tube of random steel be enough?

GunBum · Apr 22, 2018

What's wrong with buying .22 barrel liner? Someone already did all the hard parts on that.

MilGunsmith · Apr 23, 2018

I have an original Flobert action. The metal in it appears to be quite soft. Also if you make a smoothbore barrel, in a handgun size, it could be an illegal weapon. Plenty of old .22 barrels floating around to make out of.

TDegenhart · Apr 23, 2018

Not a gunsmith, why would a smooth bore barrel in handgun size be illegal?

Tom

GunBum · Apr 23, 2018

TDegenhart said:
Not a gunsmith, why would a smooth bore barrel in handgun size be illegal?

Tom

Way back in 1968, Congress passed a law.

If it is smooth bore, it needs to be 26" overall length and have at least an 18" barrel.

If it has a shoulder stock and a rifled barrel, it needs to be 26" overall length and have at least a 16" barrel.

Handguns can't have a shoulder stock.

Ray Behner · Apr 23, 2018

GunBum said:
Way back in 1968, Congress passed a law.

If it is smooth bore, it needs to be 26" overall length and have at least an 18" barrel.

If it has a shoulder stock and a rifled barrel, it needs to be 26" overall length and have at least a 16" barrel.

Handguns can't have a shoulder stock.

But why? What was the issue with a smooth bore pistol? Like Tom, I'm not a gunsmith either.

72bwhite · Apr 23, 2018

because that is what the law is.
it doesn't have to make sense.

now if it's muzzle loaded with black powder, as far as the feds are concerned
it isn't a fire arm at all.

the thinking is smooth bore = shot gun,
there for smooth bore pistol would be a sawed off shot gun.
or it could be interpreted as a zip gun.

azmachining · Apr 23, 2018

Tracability

JLarsson · Apr 23, 2018

Ray Behner said:
But why? What was the issue with a smooth bore pistol? Like Tom, I'm not a gunsmith either.

It's not a smithing issue. It's a regulatory issue, as is all of the GCA of 1968, to my knowledge. It's the government telling you what you can and can't do, not what is safe, reasonable, or prudent.

azmachining · Apr 23, 2018

Exactly it doesn't have to make sense, we just have to put our heads down and obey, good puppy. Its Making some lots of cents, everyone in the law/justice system for just a few. All it takes for them to screw us all is a few cry babies, when did losing our rights ever make us safer?

azmachining · Apr 23, 2018

But what about the little 410 hand guns? Some of them fire a 22 aswell. Are they smooth bored?

azmachining · Apr 23, 2018

Divide and conquer is how they do it. To bad the majority of Americans still don't get it. They couldn't pull all the shit they do if the entire country fought together instead of each other. Why do you think everything is the way it is, surely not our benefit.

MilGunsmith · Apr 23, 2018

No, they have rifling to make them legal. It is a very shallow slow twist.

UncleFrank · Apr 24, 2018

Regulation of short barreled firearms actually started with the National Firearms Act of 1934 and has been added to several times.

National Firearms Act | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

DDoug · Apr 24, 2018

I think this may be someone from :
1. A high school shop class
2. A prison

I would suggest a very handy material, automotive steel brake line.

GunBum · Apr 24, 2018

Ray Behner said:
But why? What was the issue with a smooth bore pistol? Like Tom, I'm not a gunsmith either.

Ask the Members of Congress who were in office in 1968. I can't make heads or tails out of why they do stuff now let alone 50 years ago.

michiganbuck · Apr 24, 2018

Darn the Grubberment, they tell me to drive on the right side..where is my freedom in that? I should be able to drive any place I please..

Very nice...
https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/flobert-rifles-and-pistols-2300.html

deltaenterprizes · Apr 25, 2018

The 1934 NFA made smooth bore Firearms with a barrel length less than 18” and an overall length of 26” illegal.

NRDock · Apr 27, 2018

Ray Behner said:
But why? What was the issue with a smooth bore pistol? Like Tom, I'm not a gunsmith either.

The issue was sawed off shotguns, hence "smoothbore".

CarbideBob · Apr 28, 2018

Never made a zip gun out of a car antenna?
I thought this was entry level, oh-poop, not a great idea, very young kid stuff.
Yet I think it sort of works. (not that I would ever be stupid enough as a kid to ever try such a dangerous thing ...)
Bob

Low velocity metal?

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