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    Halcohead is offline Stainless
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    Default FS: Fritz-Werner Universal Horizontal Mill

    This is a 16x63" table universal horizontal mill made by Fritz-Werner of West Berlin. Located in Oakland, Ca. It has inch leadscrews, and an NMTB 50 spindle. It is not hooked up to power, and I do not know if it has any mechanical problems, but I would be surprised if it did. It appears to have power feed on all axes (I've never seen a horizontal this size which doesn't), but no back side power feed controls. It does have some fancy front end speed control dial on the overarm, which I haven't seen on any Cincinnati before. I would guess the year at mid-1950s.

    It includes two (possibly three) arbors, two arbor supports, the overarm support (which unfortunately has damage to one of the mounting slots: see pictures), and one shell mill (~4"). No vise.

    How about $400 for the machine? I would rather not see this end up in scrap. Loading onto a 14' trailer is easy; there is a crane. I figure the machine doesn't weight more than 6000 lbs, but don't have a manual to confirm that.

    My apologies if this should be in antique machinery. I was unsure.

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    Damaged arbor support upper right:


    There is also a smaller Cincinnati plain horizontal mill available (50-taper, ~48" table), which has an adapter on the overarm for a bridgeport J-head. I am told it has damage to the X-axis power feed.

    Please PM me if you are interested in either machine.

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    locoguy is offline Hot Rolled
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    What about the steady rests in the photos? Available? approximate sizes. I may be interested if size is right.

    locoguy

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    Sorry, the steadies are not for sale. They go with a monarch 16x60 series 60, and are going to stay with it.

    Looking at these photos again, me thinks $400 is a bit high. How about $200? I'm considering stripping this machine of interesting parts and scrapping the rest, if there is no interest.

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    I ran one of these in a shop where I was an apprentice in 1967. Maybe not the same model but close. It had counter adjustable lead screw segments that allowed you to take out all backlash. Also had both feeds and rapids in all directions.

    If this has the lead screw adjustment feature it can climb mill. All the Friz-Werner machines were well built and very powerful. I worked at their mfg. plant located in Hampton, VA in 1970-71.

    Walter

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    Nice looking machine for that price!

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    Looks like it has strings attached.

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