Thread: For sale or trade Hardinge Turret Toolroom lathe

I have a decent shape working Hardinge Tool room lathe here that I bought for my shop but I am trying to tool up my VMC and I need to get a Horizontal/vertical milling machine in here so I would like to either sell it for $1500.00 including the tooling I have for it or trade it for a decent working knee mill,horizontal mill, bedmill for my shop here. I am in East Tennessee so I do not want to bother with shipping unless it is on your dime and any trades need to be at least near by my shop's location unless you can move it here. This machine is wired for 220v 3 phase and has the original high or low gear box in it and everything seems to work well. It has the bang bang cross slide but you can get a typical crossslide for it off ebay if you want. This is the split bed model and it has the quick change collet setup on it as well as the old style screw type collet closer in the cabinet. It has the very cool turret tailstock and comes with a nice work light. It has a small three jaw chuck, a couple different tailstock toolholders, a parting off toolpost, and facing toolpost, an interesting boring head, and it also has the original radiused plastic chuck guard but it needs a good cleanup. The machine is in good order and other than some cleanup and maybe some touch up paint is in good shape. Again I would sell this for $1500.00 but would prefer to trade it for a nice used Horizontal/vertical mill or perhaps a decent bridgeport or clone nearby my home. I do not have any collets for it other than the expanding one in the headstock in the pictures. If interested gimme a call at 865-236-8996 Thanks and peace

Pete

Pete! That's a handy machine to have in a job shop, cancel the ad, keep it around! I've got CNC this and CNC that too, but when I need to knock a burr off, do a rework on a part, or polish a bunch of little somethings, I always find myself running the little hand screw lathe.

QB

Question boy, Hey thanks man I am right with ya, I have another manual lathe that gets the lions share of the work here. I sold my CNC mill to buy this VMC I am trying to get moved over here and now I have NOTHING to mill with. Feels like I have no freakin' hands or something. I NEED a manual mill more than I need two lathes. Besides my other lathe has more capacity and HP. Just did a job on the manual lathe for a fellow the other day and it worked fine. I have always wanted to try a heavy duty horizontal/vertical mill for the shop as I think it could come in REAL handy around here for my fabrication work so here is an opportunity to make that happen and I will have a manual mill, manual lathe, VMC, and once the VMC is running in here and making me some cash I will be actively searching for a used decent condition say 10HP cnc slant bed lathe for the shop. Baby steps man BABY STEPS!! hehe peace


Would love to have something heavy duty like this in my shop.....

combination horizontal vertical milling machine

but unfortunately it is too damn far away.

Was looking at youtube videos of horizontal/vertical mills and I saw a Kearney and trecker 2h that looks very nice. I would trade for one of those with some tooling and arbors in good working condition. or something similar. I do not want a massive machine like some of the big Cincinatti's which are AMAZING but just physically huge and unbelievably heavy.



Pete

Well guys, I am really wanting to get into a decent Horizontal/vertical mill or even a knee mill here so if you have something to trade I am all ears. I am gonna lower the price to $1200.00 too for this real nice Hardinge lathe with Turret Tailstock. Machine runs good and these machines are known for their accuracy. Really want a nice heavy duty older horizontal mill with vertical head like a Cincinatti or a Kearney and Trekker or similar but it needs to be close enough to pick up unless you can deliver. If interested gimme a call at 865-236-8996 thanks and peace

Pete

Wow guys 600 views and no offers... am I too high priced? I would think there would be somebody here that could use this nice lathe. Again don't necessarily need cash as I would trade for a decent smaller horizontal and vertical mill... also would trade for a Do-all or similar vertical bandsaw locally.. Or just make a reasonable offer... hehe peace

Pete

That is the ideal second op machine for a single spindle cnc lathe!

Lee (the saw guy)

Well guys just to bump this up I am gonna lower the price to an Even Grand $1000.00 This machine is in good shape and works just fine. Again I am looking for a nice used Horizontal/vertical milling machine or knee or bed mill that is not terribly huge in trade or just sell. Prefer local deal for the trade so It is easier. Thanks and peace

Pete

Originally Posted by Pete from TN

Well guys just to bump this up I am gonna lower the price to an Even Grand $1000.00 This machine is in good shape and works just fine. Again I am looking for a nice used Horizontal/vertical milling machine or knee or bed mill that is not terribly huge in trade or just sell. Prefer local deal for the trade so It is easier. Thanks and peace

Pete

I think the issue is the fact that it's an ancient spit bed model with hex turret and there are so many of the modern style out there with push button vari speed, dovetail bed and round turret for just a little more $.

Originally Posted by oldster

That is the ideal second op machine for a single spindle cnc lathe!

It would be "ok" but far from "ideal"...esp if you need to do alot of spindle speed changes

I recently picked up one of these universals.

http://www.machineks.com/zdjecia/279/14325_141142.jpg

The one I have doesn't bear the Supermax name, but it was made by the same company (Yeong Chin aka YCM). It is a very well-built machine that weighs over two-and-a-half tons. I picked it up for $1,500 and then had to put some time into cleaning it up. I was able to get a new bronze adjustable leadscrew nut from YCM for under $200. It's nice having ample rigidity as well as a quill. I would recommend keeping an eye out for a big universal with a quill. I can't imagine going back to something as light as a B'port. It's nice being able to move some material!

Originally Posted by Milacron

It would be "ok" but far from "ideal"...esp if you need to do alot of spindle speed changes

Actually changing pulley positions is quite quick for a manual machine and the apron has a high low lever as well as fwd and rev.

As far as that universal, well I would love to trade for a machine like that or similar. If anyone has one they are not using and would like this nice Hardinge gimme a shout. For the right deal I would even purchase some collets for the machine for ya... peace


Pete

Originally Posted by Pete from TN

Actually changing pulley positions is quite quick for a manual machine and the apron has a high low lever as well as fwd and rev.

Stooping down, opening a door, lifting a lever to loosen tension, moving belt, lowering lever, closing door, standing upright......is a bit more trouble than pushing a button. High low lever is on headstock, not apron.

I saw 2 of the newer dovetail bed variable speed models sell at an auction last week for under $400 each with collets.

Wow thanks guys.... sure appreciate your helpful input here. I'll be sure to be as helpful when you post something damn... peace

Pete

"Stooping down, opening a door, lifting a lever to loosen tension, moving belt, lowering lever, closing door, standing upright......is a bit more trouble than pushing a button. High low lever is on headstock, not apron."

Depends where ya hang yer apron.

While we're on the subject who the HECK put the fwd/rev switch on the control box for the HLVH?? That's a real mess.

For those of you who complain about doing the hardinge door dance to swap belts, fit the thing with a VFD, lock the hi/low stick in high,
and you have an even easier setup that 'push the button' to change speed. Just twist the dial.

Originally Posted by jim rozen

For those of you who complain about doing the hardinge door dance to swap belts, fit the thing with a VFD, lock the hi/low stick in high,
and you have an even easier setup that 'push the button' to change speed. Just twist the dial.

Except you'd not have enough torque in the slower speeds and the motor would overheat due to the cooling fan turning too slow. Reverse for tapping might be problematic as well.

Also there is no "those of you"...it's just me.

Originally Posted by Pete from TN

Wow thanks guys.... sure appreciate your helpful input here. I'll be sure to be as helpful when you post something damn... peace

I'm just putting in writing what is in the minds of most folks looking at your lathe, but they are too "nice" to say it. I would imagine however there are a few folks out there that, in keeping with the desire to be "antique authentic" would actually prefer your model over the newer style, if it could be proven to be in excellent condition. I've always wanted one of those old split bed Hardinge HLV's but I've never run across one that wasn't "slam wore out" in the bed. But on the second op turret Hardinge there is no sliding action on the bed, so perhaps yours is in excellent condition ? If so Rozen will give you 75 bucks for it....if you deliver it !

Originally Posted by nalambright

I saw 2 of the newer dovetail bed variable speed models sell at an auction last week for under $400 each with collets.

One of the original Hardinge work lights recently sold on ebay for almost $300, so if those had the light you could have them for net $100 each.

Yea, I think it's a dumb price too, but interior decorators are snapping them up to use in trendy loft apartments in SOHO. I have two of them, and they'll be up on ebay as soon as I clean them up.

Steve

Originally Posted by SteveM

One of the original Hardinge work lights recently sold on ebay for almost $300, so if those had the light you could have them for net $100 each.

Yea, I think it's a dumb price too, but interior decorators are snapping them up to use in trendy loft apartments in SOHO. I have two of them, and they'll be up on ebay as soon as I clean them up.

I've been looking for a Beach stroke sander and was puzzled to see so many for sale without the original work table. Come to find out the table is worth big bucks when refurbished for dining table use from NYC "industrial chic" outlets !

Ya know man I know I am new here and this is your show and all... But you must be some kinda prick in real life. I mean even IF the other folks on here were thinking that it was you that felt the need to post about it. I know I have contacted you before to ask a question and you did not even have the courtesy to respond. What is your problem man? If you think my machine is not worth anything fine.... I say you're wrong. Do I need to be an authority on the machine, nope, do I need to be a dealer, nope. If it does not sell for my price that is my problem. If I gotta keep it and use it down the road for something that is fine too. You would think that you would WANT me to sell my machine on here and make this site a viable resource for people to go looking for machinery and equipment. It seems like from reading your CONSTRUCTIVE comments in other for sale ads here everything everyone else sells is a piece of crap with no value and everything YOU are selling is some kinda uber expensive and sought after piece of Gold plated whatever.... Thanks for your help man and ya might as well go ahead and delete this freakin' thread as I am sure if anyone here WAS interested in buying this machine maybe they are surely not interested now. Thanks man....

Pete