Sayith Hansdie...

Don't deny everything you don't want to believe is true either.








George appears to have other 'things' he enjoyed:
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Amazing how good they can photochop these things. GW is a Texan. He woulda had it tongue out if it was a kiss. There is no depth perception in photo's, so you can't tell a kiss from a hug, until the last shot where they added a nose to make it look like a nice wet smooch. I'm not a big Bush fan, just calling BS!

Geeze, George, I go to all that trouble to dig up a link for you, and you don't even read it! Of course it's oil! Actually natural gas, that's what the article is about. A play called the "Haynesfield Shale", one of the biggest natural gas formations ever found. Deer camps, trailer parks, wood lots, and fallow farm land leasing for 30 large A MONTH/ACRE! Now that is 'trickle down' economics! When the economy picks back up, then the royalties on production kick in.

And now for something completly different

If the Insurance companies are the problem, why doesn't O just 'nationalize' them like his Buddy Hugo in Venezuela does? That way, you have the infrastructure in place. Write your congressmen! Let's get moving on this!

Like Government Motors and the banks?

I do believe a positive outlook works wonders for us as individuals. Try it sometime!

Great point CB. Useless, but great nonetheless. May I suggest a position for you on the beauty pageant jury asking dumb questions and accepting really dumb answers?

And yes, I do try put a positive outlook on my everyday life. If I wasn't. I'd been hanging on a lamppost a long time ago.

Nope! George is a well-to-do blue blooded Yankee!
He just pretends to be a Texan for political gain.
Just as Toyota uses a Texas twang in their Tundra ads to fool people into thinking there is nothing Japanese about them!

Owwwww c'mon, he's Texan enough for me...

Rumin,

Last time we had to go to Rome, we threw the Nazis out, gave the country back to its people, and changed the government for good measure.

Dennis

I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention the hand-holding.

Jeff

You do have an outlook that shows.

Actually, I'd love a jury position at a beauty pagent. Can you sign me up? I have only one question to ask so I'd be a great candidate according to your criteria---"how about a date beautiful"? I heard Rush Limbaugh loved his pagent duty and is looking for another. Tough work but somebody has to sit close and judge carefully.

Yep, just dumb as shit here. Ol' dumb me figured out how to milk the NY based corporate career big-time at 47 converting it to investments & cash flow at 52 and have worked only for fun ever since. My last two years at that corporation, I rode around in airplanes 30% of the time explaining to deadbeat CAO's exactly what our lawyers would do to them and how much interest they owed if they paid up now. The rest of the time was spent reviewing budgets, outling to programmers how business was going to change so get ready gang and visits to corp headquarters in upsate NY. My hats off to that corporation for paying my out of state tuition for nine years at night school while I worked full time & overtime days but they did use it and gave me many, many, new opportunities.

You know it was great fun along the way starting just above the toilet paper changer in a big factory and eventually seeing the world from bottom to top. Once I tried to get an open apprentice job there for tool & die making but didn't know anyone in the shop who would recommend me. I did get an apprenticeship as an electrician there but moved on after a master electrician fried in a switching room.

I actually thought the toilet paper crew were better people than the ex-cracker dork who became our top dog and converted the company into the modern miracle of of short term management, cash now from sales of profitable divisions, downsizing to dysfunction, out-sourcing and huge bonuses for himself. Along the way all the back stabbers, hip shooters and ass kissers didn't move much and are still mostly in the same job. The worst was the crap at the top where nothing was believable and the smoke & mirrors our politicians use is laughable by comparison. Maybe that is why I don't take politics seriously.

You don't see it often but what is strange to me; is the useless occasional troll along the way who hasn't figured out how yet to land that big fish and blames everyone else or something intangable for their problems.

Meanwhile I grind stuff out of tool steel and sell everything I make. Its a lot more fun.

Handsie,

"Actually it is the peoples (ie.consumers) fault that things are moving offshore. Companies only give people what they want. If the consumer wants a product made in USA and are willing to pay for it then the company will make it here. If people don't care where it's made as long as it's cheap then more and more will be made in low cost countries."

Bullshit! How many times do you have to be told that there IS no American made alternative?

Tools, YES, you can buy them at higher price, so called "Professional Grade", and it is made FOR a US vendor, with a different color housing and a higher price. DeWalt comes to mind. Milwaukee, one of the best, is now part of Ryobi. Ridgid, sonoma gun, that TOO is Ryobi. Japanese company having tools made in China and sold here under a traditional, respected, nay, adored, US name.

"Two wrongs don't make a right!"

No idea what that is in regard to. BUSH spent like a drunken sailor so Obama shouldn't? BUSH spent us into this DEpression. You ain't getting out of it unless you DO spend to get the economy moving. I wish there were more projects ready to spend money on.

We have some 600 BILLION of unspent but allocated funds that COULD put people back to work. Who knows? Maybe there is a project near you that could lift your local economy, and maybe even YOUR personal well being.

"Why not reign in the costs of the hospitals? This is where the high cost of medical care is coming from not the insurance company. If you don't believe me go to your local emergency room without insurance and see how much they charge."

I'll give you one my neighbor told me about her recent exam. Bloodwork included. She told me that one of the tests for something in the blood was 6.98 charged, 2 CENTS paid. Lots of the other tests were similarly lowballed. 68 bucks charged, 3.50 paid.

Hospitals charge what they do because the Insurance Cos will dick them down to near nothing. You ain't JoeD. You can't tell them you will take your business across the border unless they take what you are willing to pay. If you chop off your leg, they will wrap a tourniquet around it, you have been treated in the Emergency Room, now beat it, go get the low cost provider to sew your leg back on, you don't have insurance.

Some, but most certainly not all hospitals will treat an emergency case in the Emergency Room, even without Insurance. Stabilize you, THEN, dump you in the street. Some, you will not pass the gargoyle at the Admissions Desk unless you can provide proof of Insurance or proof that you can pay.

From the above and from the FACT that many Insurance Companies have been documented to deny as much as 29% of charges condemns the Insurance Companies, NOT the Hospitals. Every penny they deny goes to the bottom line.

As to planes, some of the biggest ticket items in the world. I think China already builds some of their own combat planes. Remember, we can't build absolutely failsafe planes. We make boo-boos, too. You can tell me all about them being WAY safer than driving, WAY more millions of passenger miles flown per fatality than driving.

400 tons of plane falling out of the sky with 400 people on it doesn't make me feel they are so much safer. What is the projected price tag on this 787? 300 MILLION PER? The plane they can't seem to perfect, since so much is so much more sophisticated.

Why, to paraphrase the Health Care argument, don't those of you who want to take baby steps on Health Care tell Boeing to make maybe a 778? Baby Step.

Rumin,

Our Bible also says "Render unto Caesar that which IS Caesar's". Whether that is Caesar's tax or Caesar's laws doesn't matter. When in Rome.... as you say.

Thru,
Up here it is Marcellus Shale where they are doing all that deep then 90* drilling, then shattering the surrounding shale to get more gas. They are polluting like hell. MILLIONS of gallons of brine that they are having trouble disposing of. Pay per well, I don't know. Pay for access WAS pretty high a year or so ago, 13 buck Nat Gas, now it's less than 4, so leases have gone downhill.

"If the Insurance companies are the problem, why doesn't O just 'nationalize' them like his Buddy Hugo in Venezuela does? That way, you have the infrastructure in place. Write your congressmen! Let's get moving on this!"

You DO realize we are NOT Venezuela, though I am not without sympathy for Venezuela and Chavez. I know lots of Reps hate him for offering reduced cost heating oil to areas of the country that could not afford to heat their homes a couple years ago. I would think that those who took Citgo's offer saved a couple hundred bucks that Winter.

Bad thing was that Exxon couldn't sell oil to those people at THEIR price.

Anyhow, we have a Constitution that says we cannot, AND, as a Constitutional Scholar, I really think that Obama is more likely to adhere TO the Constitution than the stumblebum GW or the "I had other priorities" CEO Cheney, AKA VP, although I think he acted much more AS Pres for the first 4 years than GW did.

Better question is why we don't make them into something like ALL the other First World Nations in the world? Europe has Nationalized Health Care, and they pay from less than half as much vis GDP to slightly more than half as much vis GDP than we do, and every person in those countries HAVE Health Care, whether they have a job or are laid off.

THEY don't HAVE Corps taking in 2.5 TRILLION bucks per year, of which they get to keep about 30% for.... I don't know what for. Denying coverage? Kicking people OFF the plan. How about the guy with MS who cost so much that the INSURANCE COMPANY cancelled ALL the policies in that program. Thousands cancelled because one man was so sick that he used more medical care than his premiums covered.

Knudsen,

Did you hear that GS made something over 39 BILLION in profits, reduced by 36 BILLION in BONUSES that they are paying to their traders, a bunch of whose job it to drive up the price of oil to make profits. How much have they cost YOU in oil and electric and heating bills. Every form of energy goes up with the cost of oil BTU's.

If Obama "Nationalized" the Banks, he did one hell of a bad job of it. 85 BILLION to GS alone.

Auto makers, I THINK all he did was tell Rich Wagoner he had to go. Fritz Henderson seems to be a better match for a Mfg. Co. than Wagoner was. Car man, I think.

CB,

Keep doing what you are doing. Don't fall for bullshit. Lots of that here, and I can't believe that ALL the "REAL MACHINIST" are so obtuse. Dumb SOB who can't afford the stock to do a job bitches that it is all because of Obama, does he ever think that credit contracted LONG before Obama got elected?

I don't hold high hopes that much will be done in this 4 years, which just might be his only 4 years, though I have no idea who could or would run against him in 2012. Nutcase Palin, maybe. They want Obama to get the country back on keel before they try to sell people on how much better it COULD have been with REPS in charge.

WATCH Boner and Mitch McConnell, and they do nothing but stall. Lieberman would have lost his Chairmanship last November when he ran as Independent and won.

Can you believe that a country of 300 MILLION are terrified about the decision to try the Arabs in NYC? 300 MILLION. Many who are deer hunters, and we have such movies about how BRAVE we are, and a couple Arabs TERRIFY ALL of us. Or our Representatives. REP Representatives.

A NATION OF PUSSIES? We have sent MILLIONS offshore to fight for the country. NOW, we are afraid that a couple Arabs will escape and wreak mayhem in the countryside.

I am beginning to be ashamed of the people who POPULATE my country, or at least those who represent most of us. MOST of them have never served in any service, and they are, flat out, PUSSIES.

That a Psychiatrist in Fort Hood could go in among hundreds of Soldiers and shoot so many of them, soldiers, the backbone of the country, are not permitted to CARRY weapons, and a CIVILIAN police woman has to shoot him says volumes about our country. We don't HAVE armed MPS on the largest Army Base in the US. We have to wait for a CIVILIAN police WOMAN to come and stop the carnage?

You hear about the idiots who stage a holdup where cops are having a blowout. STUPID.

You don't accept that on an Army base, NOONE is armed except the shooter.

Nation of PUSSIES.

Cheers,

George

I am glad you brought this to my attention( Obama Bowing) I seen it and thought he was just Bending Over. I see nothing wrong with trading with China or anyone else as long as their buying our stuff on an equal basis. Enough said, Cheers, Alan

The photo of him kissing on the lips is a fake and a bad one at that.

Sure there is. It's just people like you don't care or don't want to pay the extra money. You'll save maybe $2000 buying made in China but you lose the same in purchasing power. I can buy a $100 pair of running shoes made in US or $100 running shoes made in China. When people start caring then real CHANGE can happen.

Doesn't make sense to me...Bush spends to stimulate the economy and thats bad ... but when Obama does it it's good... Cuba, North Korea communism bad... China communism good... unfortunetly for you after China talked some sense into Obama, Obama no longer agrees with you about spending. He now thinks we need to stop spending so much.

I don't work for the goverment and I'm not poor so the stimulus money won't help me directly. 1/3 goes to entitlement spending, 1/3 goes to tax benefits. so basically 2/3 is giving money to the poor thanks to loans from China. This is not going to stimulate the economy for the long term it's going to hurt it.

Who told you this? Is this your theory? It makes no sense. Hospitals charge what they charge so they can make money and this doesn't just include for profit hospitals.

Not sure what point you're making about airplanes being safe or not but my point is China has a plane in the works should be ready in 2014. Its the C919 which is "better" than a 737 and A320. It will also be a composite plane just like the 787 and A350. Where do you think there learning how to build planes? Thank Boeing and Airbus.

I believe you like the IDEA of Obama better than you like the reality of Obama. Remember it's the IDEA of Obama that won him the Noble peace prize not the reality.
Personally I believe most of the politicians are corrupt and out of touch with the real world, Republican or Democrat. I also think they need to close loopholes in the tax code and work on trade agreements before Goverment insurance and cap and trade are even talked about.

Have you ever thought about writing a book?
You' could just bind all your posts this month,
and you have enough right there.

Perhaps a lucrative column in the AARP's rag.
Title it . . Gm'otivator.
m1m

PS, you don't know if I am a machinist?
Don't ya remember we talked friendly about cutting
spherical radi'i on a bullard.
I am a machinist today,,,,,, tomorrow ??
Have to wait and see,
See if CB's Obama has fixed our economy yet.
Might be delivering Pizza's for the Hut.

"You DO realize we are NOT Venezuela,"

not yet, but we're headin' in that direction.

We got nothing to worry about as long as there is more room for zeroes . . .

Thank you Bill Clinton!!! This started in march 1993, so people can be safe and free from guns.... A terrorist on a base with a gun, no one can stop him, dont you feel safe. A no gun zone is a safe zone for criminals and terrorists... Pick a spot where these things have occured, the long island rail road, gun free, VA Tech gun free, Columbine gun free and on and on...


I will wage that the latest terrorist at fort hood will have been given cover by political correctness. No one wanted to come out and say that a Muslim might be a terrosit, could be a racist remark, dont wanna get in trouble. After all now with the Obama thought police you will get in trouble. The interrogators are the bad guys today, the criminals are victims.


Are we Pussies, you bet

Thank political correctness

Kids cant have toy guns, cant joint the boy scouts, cant get cuts and bruises. Play soccer great, rugby, not so much. Stay home and read Johnny has two daddies instead of being taught to shoot a 22. Lots of things kids cant do today today a kid sees a piece of lead and you screw lead poising, yet years ago you might have made lead army men and toys with your Gilbert foundry...


As for trials in NYC, why?

They should have a military tribunal, not a kangaroo court. This is such a bad idea and I could write a book and why it is.

Not a citizen, nor a guest. No Miranda warning, any info given to the defence will be used by our enemies, names dates what ever. Disclosure will be a joke and a very bad one at that. Second, the judge and jury will be come targets of the terrorists. Next the Token attorney General has made it know that he will be found guilty, sounds fixed to me and the Islamic world, no? How do you know a left wing judge wont just dismiss the case due to interrogation? Its a stupid idea...

And did you see the file photo of KSM. You can see he being tortured right in the photo. If you look close, they are making him wear a fur coat under his t shirt in that tropical heat...

Hold on a sec, Tom. I think you might have posted the wrong picture....
That's not Khalil, that's Rosie O'Donnell.

Hand holding is not sexual. You can hold a little boys hand in church, crossing the street or during a scary movie; nothing wrong with that. Kissing on the lips is sexual. You just can't do that with anyone. At least not in most countries/states/civilizations.