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Old 10-15-2009, 05:39 PM
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Default Possible trend: Moving back???

Found a kind of interesting article.
Certainly not new information ( to most ), but may be informative:

http://www.edn.com/article/ca6701633...31&rid=9360735
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:00 PM
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Thank you for the article.

Fear of the unions taking hold in China?

There ends the lesson. Why can't this country get these unions in check, so we can get America back in the ball game, and back to work?
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:06 PM
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EDN is one of the top magazines in the electronic design and manufacturing field. I get it every month. It may not be familiar to many of our members.

Interesting article. The promise of cheap chop suey products has lost its lustre.

Had they emphasized quality over low cost, this trend might have been avoided. But I'm afraid the reputation for poor quality will haunt them for decades, regardless of any corrective actions they might try to take now.

- Leigh
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Old 10-15-2009, 06:33 PM
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Thank you finally someone with some psitive outlook ! I hear so much negative all day from buyers to owners that one can almost slip into the doom and gloom attitude . THANK YOU FOR THE UPLIFT even if just a single report
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:41 PM
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Thank you for the article.

Fear of the unions taking hold in China?

There ends the lesson. Why can't this country get these unions in check, so we can get America back in the ball game, and back to work?
The Chinese situation is unsustainable and if you want that in the USA
then you'll have machinists working 14/7 on rice rations and their owners
paying little or no taxes. You really want that?
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:06 PM
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There ends the lesson. Why can't this country get these unions in check, so we can get America back in the ball game, and back to work?
Not this again! I guess the fact the wages once paid to 'productive members of society' (in Rush-speak) are now spread amongst a very few who aren't buying anything... just hoarding as much moolah as they can isn't being told on Fox News.
Maybe if CEO's got paid like regular folks with at most a 3% raise over the past several years we would see companies in the black.
Blame the unions while the picture is MUCH bigger than that!
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:15 PM
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A little encouraging, yes, but if you read between the lines you can see they might move the manufacturing from China, but they can't resist the temptation of cheap labor. So on to Mexico, Central and South America.

The funny part is everybody on the shop floor told them(CEO's and mgmt) years ago exactly what would happen. But did they listen?
NO
Well in the words of that famous Marine..............."Surprise, Surprise!"
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:13 AM
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Pat G: You obviously have little clue about current "big labor" union shops. My little company location had 22,000 workers when I hired in, in 1976. We now have 2,000. This big bad union just voted to eliminate a scheduled pay raise, and to forgo pay raises until the contract ends, in 2 years. In return, we are given 2 more years of production at this plant. We also gave up future wage increases, and brought in a new 2 tier wage for skilled trades. A month ago, 1100 people applied for 90 non skilled jobs that have yet to appear. Starting wage is $13. Tool and Die members did not vote to give up contract wage increases. All 37 of them were notified last week that they will be let go, their work will be outsourced. we can look at Yahoo finance, and see the salaries paid to the top brass. We the little "union" guys on the floor do not have it quite so well. In fact, this is not officially "heating seaon" yet.In a cost saving move, coal fired steam heating was eliminated here. The front office people (non union, salary types) have heat and A/C. We are getting by with 2 salamander type kerosene heaters for people that have to work near the building doors. This building alone has about 30 acres under roof with 50' ceilings. It is 30 degrees F this morning as I type this. The heat in my office is supplied by a refrigerator and Dell computer.Not all union folks are the cause of your misery. To see a bigger glimpse, check out the HBO documentary SCHMATTA: RAGS TO RICHES TO RAGS A story about the decline of the US clothing mfgs. based in Manhattan. A real eye opener.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:21 AM
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You are correct.
Union membership is the lowest in 50 tears.
Time to find another scapegoat.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:24 PM
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I'm tired of union employess that don't make anything that can be sold. E.g, Government!
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