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    Didn't these mutton-heads just sign off on a $400-billion budget? How is this a fiscally responsible action by any measure? The aim has always been to have a country of super rich and dirt poor.

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    States Are Going Broke Because They Broke the Bank

    Illinois has at least $6 billion in unpaid bills after its biggest tax increase in history.

    States Are Going Broke Because They Broke the Bank - Stephen Moore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawnrs View Post
    States Are Going Broke Because They Broke the Bank




    States Are Going Broke Because They Broke the Bank - Stephen Moore
    Yea...Kansas has to pen food banks because they can't pay their judicial branch enough to eat...those pro growth tax cuts in Kansas sure worked great.
    Food pantry opens in Wichita for low-paid judicial staff

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    Quote Originally Posted by cranium View Post
    Didn't these mutton-heads just sign off on a $400-billion budget? How is this a fiscally responsible action by any measure? The aim has always been to have a country of super rich and dirt poor.
    The latest budget runs a deficit...even at growth of 4-5%
    Liars...and you are right.Allthey want is plutocrats and serfs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    The latest budget runs a deficit...even at growth of 4-5%
    Liars...and you are right.Allthey want is plutocrats and serfs.
    Hey Miguels244, when you're done taking care of those child molesting republicans I thought you'd be interested in knowing there's a 3hp prototrak head in 40 taper on the NJ craigslist if you're interested. Not sure what your pricing is but it's listed at $1200

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    # 4 taper 3hp verticle milling head rebuilt 3 hp 3 ph - tools - by owner - sale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguels244 View Post
    Yea...Kansas has to pen food banks because they can't pay their judicial branch enough to eat...those pro growth tax cuts in Kansas sure worked great.
    Food pantry opens in Wichita for low-paid judicial staff
    With the off days that likely comes to $15 an hour.. My daughter had such a job but she did not make that much..Yes mostly a student job so we thought it plenty..and often two people for every one person's worth of work, sometime three people. so plenty of time to just chat...she did not get a free lunch..

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    Quote Originally Posted by IWUP View Post
    Hey Miguels244, when you're done taking care of those child molesting republicans I thought you'd be interested in knowing there's a 3hp prototrak head in 40 taper on the NJ craigslist if you're interested. Not sure what your pricing is but it's listed at $1200

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    # 4 taper 3hp verticle milling head rebuilt 3 hp 3 ph - tools - by owner - sale
    Within budget...long ways from home.
    Thanks

    I try to leave my technical posts out of this cesspool...and vise versa

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    With the off days that likely comes to $15 an hour.. My daughter had such a job but she did not make that much..Yes mostly a student job so we thought it plenty..and often two people for every one person's worth of work, sometime three people. so plenty of time to just chat...she did not get a free lunch..
    You are so wrong and ignorant of the situation. The state of Kansas IS the prototype for the federal government. These jobs are NOT kid jobs, these are state employees at every level. The just departed governor left a giant smoking hole in the state that destabilized and under funded every state agency. The tax plan Brownback rammed through the statehouse was the prime reason, the unreal expectation of growth was only the icing on the cake.

    Watching the idiots in the executive branch and, various factions in congress is like deja vu all over again. Defunding the state department and not deploying diplomats is about the best way to ensure the military budget is going to rise. Defunding the parts of government you don't like is akin to ignoring that squeel in the rear wheel of your car. When the wheel falls off it is going to be a much greater expense, likely at the worst possible time.

    Steve

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    QT...[You are so wrong and ignorant of the situation.]

    How about a guy who advocated man sex with 9 year old boys...and stayed in government for 30 years or more..Go figure people harp on child porn and raping children and let a bozo stay in office..I think many Americans are ignorant of important situations and know mostly what the see on TV Go figure.

    Good advice is go out and get a real job..Don't expect $15 an hour being the 13 year old paper boy..

    or expect $30 an hour for putting papers in alphabetical order just because you have a 2 or 4 year degree, and think anybody with a degree should get $30 for pushing a broom.

    State Employment Center - Benefits

    I agree teachers, firefighters, cops and the like work for their pay..but many government jobs a high school kid could do with ease..

    Oh ...IMHO.

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    This Russian bunk..Now a year old and still TV and FBI making a big deal of it..Of what?
    looks like Hilary had more to do with the Russians..
    Not saying Trump is a nice guy but enough on stupid is enough..

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    This Russian bunk..Now a year old and still TV and FBI making a big deal of it..Of what?
    looks like Hilary had more to do with the Russians..
    Not saying Trump is a nice guy but enough on stupid is enough..
    no, obviously you love stupid,

    Hillary had more to do with the Russians

    really

    so trump campaign staffers meet with Russian intelligence operatives, but since Hannity says it is no problem, you buy it

    stupid is as stupid does

    when you repeat lies, you become a liar

    at least be an intelligent liar and make up some back stories for your bullshit

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    This seems somehow appropriate: Cognitive Ability and Vulnerability to Fake News - Scientific American

    It's one thing to imagine Trump might be a good leader. Something else to keep thinking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbdjr59 View Post
    We have tried it the lefts way for the last decade, let's see what happens when the right takes charge.
    The right gives all the money away, the left takes it back. Itís pretty straightforward and everybody knows their roles.

    Itís a better system than some and worse than others and is never stable. Long term economic stability means somebody is intentionally exceeding the tolerances built into the system and it never works.

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    In other news, layoffs are starting to increase, that's good for the 401k right?

    Harley Davidson 800 employees and closing Kansas City Plant
    Harley-Davidson plans to close Kansas City plant, announces layoffs - Salon.com

    Whirlpool 200
    Whirlpool confirms it will conduct layoffs | Business | southbendtribune.com

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    Wisconsin Budget: The Lesson of Kimberly-Clark Layoffs >> Urban Milwaukee

    Amazon Barnes and Noble unspecific but says hundreds, as retail is dying out.
    Amazon layoffs: Some Seattle headquarters staff lose jobs

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    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2...s-layoffs.html

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    http://wcfcourier.com/business/local...98f4ad80b.html

    And the president's favorite one, CNN a couple dozen.
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...ens-of-layoffs

    MAGA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    Actually think it possible the Bozos in government may sabotage the economy or the country to make Trump look bad or fail.

    Yes he does some of that himself but it seems jobs and numbers are up..Bozos donít like that.
    What like shutting the government down twice under Obama...trashing our credit rating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteM View Post
    This seems somehow appropriate: Cognitive Ability and Vulnerability to Fake News - Scientific American

    It's one thing to imagine Trump might be a good leader. Something else to keep thinking it.
    We are so fucked...that's why it's important to keep the real information flowing. It might not change a diehards mind, but it can slow the infection into other people.
    'Psychological vaccine’ could help immunise public against ‘fake news’ on climate change – study | University of Cambridge

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    Thereís a bipartisan part of governance philosophy thatís always present in the executive and legislative branches and failing to account for it makes most discussions of high level issues like national debt pointless.

    The people in those positions absolutely cannot act in any way that accepts the notion that the nation is not eternal. To do or say anything that implies the country is eventually going to go away and be forgotten about is tantamount to calling it quits today and nationalist extremists will call it unpatriotic or, even ďUnamericanĒ (a fictional word with a meaning everybody seems to know... somehow).

    The point, is that decisions are made based on the idea that no matter what happens itíll get sorted out. That means the country can borrow $999 trillion (or whatever) and itíll be fine because the country has until the end of the sun to pay it back (or whatever).

    Patriotism and nationalism make great soldiers, but terrible politicians. Thatís not necessarily the fault of the politicians, but we have been electing clones of the same clowns for a couple centuries so it clearly makes us proles feel better to force politicians to be infinitely patriotic and never deign to even hint at a finite existence for the country.

    Keep that idea of the eternal nation in mind as you frame political discussions and itíll completely change the way you compare policies and politicians. If you really work at it you can start believing it and thatís when you know itís time to put down your tools and become a politician.

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    *like shutting the government down in general the bozos are not doing their job..They go on millions of dollars families vacation to an expensive resort on the dole a week or so before they run out of money.

    Shoulda bought them all a new Lincoln so they would need not take a train...

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganbuck View Post
    QT...[You are so wrong and ignorant of the situation.]


    Good advice is go out and get a real job..Don't expect $15 an hour being the 13 year old paper boy..

    or expect $30 an hour for putting papers in alphabetical order just because you have a 2 or 4 year degree, and think anybody with a degree should get $30 for pushing a broom.


    I agree teachers, firefighters, cops and the like work for their pay..but many government jobs a high school kid could do with ease..

    Oh ...IMHO.

    I love the absolute ignorance involved in this post

    why don't we walk this back for those trumpistas too ignorant to do simple math

    a one bedroom apartment in, say, the Bronx starts around 1300 a month. There appears to be one at under a thousand

    One

    In the Bronx

    so, lets do a little math, shall we?

    That is 300 a week, take home, just to pay the rent. Now, I frequently had a live in girlfriend, but seeing as they can walk out at a moments notice,it is usually good fiscal practice to be able to afford the rent on your own.

    now, when I was single, best I did was about 80 percent take home/gross, which means grossing about 375 a week, to pay the rent. Now, back when I was single, I frequently paid as much as 50 percent of my income in rent, not fun, but one can live. If you think you can live on less, please do some math, or at least be more persuasive than 'they don't deserve it'

    so 750 a week, for the honor of living in the bronx.

    Oh, yeah, that is about 19 bucks an hour, so, so much for your broom pushers living in luxury

    IF one was in Atlanta, the numbers are rosier, but one still needs 9 bucks an hour for what is probably a glorified crack house[there appear to be under a dozen apartments in Atlanta under 600 a month]

    So what kind of self important know nothing harps on what other people make? Business has not seen fit to raise wages for years, decades in reality, and yet, somehow, all these people make too much money

    I mean, I can see how they can feed themselves, maybe even get a crappy car, but live indoors?

    you should be ashamed of yourself for wishing everyone you deem 'lesser than' to be homeless

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrritableBadger View Post
    . . . The people in those positions absolutely cannot act in any way that accepts the notion that the nation is not eternal. To do or say anything that implies the country is eventually going to go away and be forgotten about is tantamount to calling it quits today and nationalist extremists will call it unpatriotic . . .
    Not sure I entirely understand your point. I think it's that politicians and generals assume we'll endure, regardless of what stupid steps they take in the interim?

    In business, I often worked with once-great companies facing dire circumstances. Given the know-how, the people, the customer base . . . would this be a great start to a new company? The answer was often a resounding yes. These companies just had to leverage the many assets already in place. It didn't always work (e.g. Polaroid or Silicon Graphics, unable to escape their own MAPA and MASGA make-great-again mantras). But companies like Ford and IBM (several times reinventing itself) have so-far endured. Even HP, though greatly diminished. That company rose on great leadership and fell on poor leadership.

    To me, the US is like that. We are facing tough decisions. But we also have so many terrific people, some of the world's best universities and research institutions, rule of law, decent (if crumbling) infrastructure, many of the world's leading high tech companies, a citizenry interested on continuous improvement, a large and astute consumer base, and so on. Only question is if we can leverage our many strengths and reject what's ailing us.

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