friends, i am now turning 62, and while surfing the net last few days, i have been looking for a K&T eB, and have found only a very few pictures if any. wouldnt Parsons be dismayed? My Uncle george dtarted me on an atlas lathe when i was seven, a bridgport mill when i was nine, then i watched Jimmy stewart in the lone egle playing Lindburgh, and have been hooked on harleys, airplanes, and all engines and machine work since! America, no longer has the tool box mentality! AND THIS! will be the downfall of our country gentlemen! i am talking about education standards, the lack of, impossible equality of outcome, and a so called service based economy that is doomed to failure! all through our history, we found answers to impossible questions! we grow food for the entire world! we build and have built so many astounding things that make our very existence, a Godsend! Now, the people who say they know better, have dumbed out children down, and made them lazy, and moronic! What i am trying to say my friends, not enough people know WHAT WE DO!, and HOW! we do it! and how they benefit from our labors, not mention our hobbies! And the things that come from our work, minds, and problem solving! I am no pr guy, but whilke looking for that eB, i realized that even though we need cnc, and all the speed we can get to make parts, equal sign, MONEY! we are not teaching enough young people our trade and work, to keep this country ahead of everyone else! YES, manual is slow, but deliberate! YES old NC is slow, but also for teaching confidence and precision. i have had students come to my business, that can not add, subtract, mulitply or divide, with out a darned calculater, this is madness! i hope some here can articulate better than i ,my frustration with the loss of forsight and the challenge of hard work, that brings satisfaction from a jobe WELL DONE! and brings more young guys to this realization, and girls too! i have been teaching men and women for many years this trade, but i see not enough, and it worries me that they are being stifled! oh well, just trying to see if antone else feels that the sensation of hope and wonder, of what can be accomplished, when some one tell you IT CANT BE DONE! WE DO IT! john r thellin 2 trinity texas! thanks for letting me say whats on my mind!