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    Update on this project:
    The eprom reader finally arrived at my place, eprom read and sent to GP Tech who will test when he got the time.

    I have done some parameter comparing and the only thing makes sence is that bit 7 at OP12 need to be set to 1 if EIA/ISO chips is installed.

    Here is my OP12 parameters:
    ST30 ATC T3 (with EIA/ISO) = 0000 0011
    QT10N T2 (with EIA/ISO) = 0000 0111
    QT10N ATC T3 (without EIA/ISO) = 0000 0101

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    Quote Originally Posted by benganboll View Post
    Update on this project:
    The eprom reader finally arrived at my place, eprom read and sent to GP Tech who will test when he got the time.

    I have done some parameter comparing and the only thing makes sence is that bit 7 at OP12 need to be set to 1 if EIA/ISO chips is installed.

    Here is my OP12 parameters:
    ST30 ATC T3 (with EIA/ISO) = 0000 0011
    QT10N T2 (with EIA/ISO) = 0000 0111
    QT10N ATC T3 (without EIA/ISO) = 0000 0101
    Just to add to that for confirmation:
    QT10N T2 (without EIA/ISO) = 0000 0101

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    Quote Originally Posted by xa-mont View Post
    Just to add to that for confirmation:
    QT10N T2 (without EIA/ISO) = 0000 0101
    I concur.
    1986 QT10N T2 (without EIA/ISO)

    OP12 0000 0101

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    Quote Originally Posted by benganboll View Post
    Update on this project:
    The eprom reader finally arrived at my place, eprom read and sent to GP Tech who will test when he got the time.

    I have done some parameter comparing and the only thing makes sence is that bit 7 at OP12 need to be set to 1 if EIA/ISO chips is installed.

    Here is my OP12 parameters:
    ST30 ATC T3 (with EIA/ISO) = 0000 0011
    QT10N T2 (with EIA/ISO) = 0000 0111
    QT10N ATC T3 (without EIA/ISO) = 0000 0101
    The new EPROM's are written (Burned, Burnt, whatever sounds right) should get to try them over the weekend.
    Thanks to Benganboll for reading his EPROM's, the reader took forever to arrive and I thought it was lost as I received mine in 2 weeks. Gives new meaning to the slow boat from china.
    Exciting times, hopefully this works. I see no reason why it won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP Tech View Post
    The new EPROM's are written (Burned, Burnt, whatever sounds right) should get to try them over the weekend.
    Thanks to Benganboll for reading his EPROM's, the reader took forever to arrive and I thought it was lost as I received mine in 2 weeks. Gives new meaning to the slow boat from china.
    Exciting times, hopefully this works. I see no reason why it won't.
    Exciting indeed! I'm really hopeful that this will work.

    Which EEPROM chips did you purchase? Are those all 27C128?

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    img_20170320_171134319.jpg

    Sorry for taking so long getting back on this, I've been flat out like a lizard drinking.

    It looks like it has worked, here's an output from fusion360 I uploaded to the qt8. I don't know if the cam post is right though. It was one I found for the mazak T2.
    img_20170320_173526620.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP Tech View Post
    img_20170320_171134319.jpg

    Sorry for taking so long getting back on this, I've been flat out like a lizard drinking.

    It looks like it has worked, here's an output from fusion360 I uploaded to the qt8. I don't know if the cam post is right though. It was one I found for the mazak T2.
    img_20170320_173526620.jpg
    That's awesome... So how much for some chips?

    Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

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    What is needed?
    1, The eprom chips
    2, Parameter change? (bit 7 at OP12)
    3, Install a FX17 board.

    Thats it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benganboll View Post
    What is needed?
    1, The eprom chips
    2, Parameter change? (bit 7 at OP12)
    3, Install a FX17 board.

    Thats it?
    That's it.

    the post I used came up with a BLUE message "176 start cycle in command display" I googled this but found no reference.
    I only played around with it for a few minutes before leaving.
    This is the post I used.
    Mazak T-plus post processor... - Autodesk Community

    I think the penny just dropped, I need to have the screen in the position screen for it to work. Is that right?
    Last edited by GP Tech; 03-20-2017 at 03:15 AM. Reason: added penny dropping

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    Quote Originally Posted by benganboll View Post
    Yes, I downloaded it when you put the links up last time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP Tech View Post
    Yes, I downloaded it when you put the links up last time.
    Thats me, senile

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP Tech View Post
    That's it.

    the post I used came up with a BLUE message "176 start cycle in command display" I googled this but found no reference.
    I only played around with it for a few minutes before leaving.
    This is the post I used.
    Mazak T-plus post processor... - Autodesk Community

    I think the penny just dropped, I need to have the screen in the position screen for it to work. Is that right?
    I'm sure that's right. My non EIA/ISO machine kicks an error like that when I'm in a program screen and hit cycle start. If I switch over to the correct screen, my program will run. It makes sense that the behavior would be the same for EIA/ISO.

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    Well done.
    Theres lots of talk around about hacking the machines to turn options on, but this is the first successful attempt I've seen.

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    I have some questions on the FX17 boards.

    These have a DB-25 port, but I assume they are a standard serial communications interface?

    Are they RS232 or RS485?

    Is there any concern on which version FX17 board should be used?

    I just purchased this FX17C board (it looks like it is a revision D).
    Warranty Mitsubishi Meldas Control Board FX17 FX17C BN624A328H1 | eBay

    fx17c-d_03.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwtoyota View Post
    I have some questions on the FX17 boards.

    These have a DB-25 port, but I assume they are a standard serial communications interface?

    Are they RS232 or RS485?

    Is there any concern on which version FX17 board should be used?

    I just purchased this FX17C board (it looks like it is a revision D).
    Warranty Mitsubishi Meldas Control Board FX17 FX17C BN624A328H1 | eBay

    fx17c-d_03.jpg
    I don't know what the differences are, I would expect them to be the same and revisions would be just updates.
    It's a standard RS232 port, I don't know what the blue connector is or does.

    I set the baud rate to 4800 on the nc link software and used the same cable I use for my mori mv-40b fanuc 0m

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP Tech View Post
    I don't know what the differences are, I would expect them to be the same and revisions would be just updates.
    It's a standard RS232 port, I don't know what the blue connector is or does.

    I set the baud rate to 4800 on the nc link software and used the same cable I use for my mori mv-40b fanuc 0m
    Thanks, that simplifies things. I have a working RS232 setup for the Fanuc 11M control on my Kuraki mill.

    Like ManualEd pointed out, this is a very cool accomplishment.
    Two guys from across the globe pooling resources to come up with a solution that works. So cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwtoyota View Post
    Thanks, that simplifies things. I have a working RS232 setup for the Fanuc 11M control on my Kuraki mill.

    Like ManualEd pointed out, this is a very cool accomplishment.
    Two guys from across the globe pooling resources to come up with a solution that works. So cool!
    the question now is what other "software" options could we possibly access? I already suggested that rigid tapping (synchronised tapping i think it's called on mazaks) might be doable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xa-mont View Post
    the question now is what other "software" options could we possibly access? I already suggested that rigid tapping (synchronised tapping i think it's called on mazaks) might be doable.
    Well if someone has that option on there T2 machine then it should be doable, unless there is a difference in the hardware side, like different encoder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GP Tech View Post
    Well if someone has that option on there T2 machine then it should be doable, unless there is a difference in the hardware side, like different encoder.
    For rigid tapping specifically, it may require a spindle positioning board to be installed in the spindle drive.
    My comment is not based on any specific "facts" or knowledge, it's merely a guess since I've read in another discussions that for the T2 spindle positioning option, you need a special board in the spindle drive.


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