Thread: Layout unable t32 quirk!!

We are getting this error after inserting a line with the "insert" function. The program asks us if we want to end the layout when inserting a line and after answering it will give this error. We cannot locate the problem in the program its very strange. Anyone have this issue? Program wont run or layout.

Hello, this has happened to me a few times, not just on T32's but T2s and such, my problem, in each case, was that I had failed to "END" the program.

*Hopefully this will help you out!

End is programmed still unable to layout...very strange!

Hello, was your program OK prior to inserting the new line?

Yes worked great!...Before

Hmm cant seem to find the error in the program I get a [436 Layout not complete] error

Try going into the layout page and selecting program priority then input. That should clear the error and reset your layout to the order programmed. Be sure to make any prior layout changes over again as your prior layout changes will be gone.

Hope it helps,
Techguy

Get rid of the line you inserted
*post the a snap shot of the line in here, maybe we can figure it out together, based on your statement >>>>Yes worked great!...Before, the problem is in that line!

SteelCutter

When you add a line to a program that has had layout edits before you get a layout unable error that has to be cleared as I described above before you can continue.

Here's my take based on fusion:

All mazatrol programs afford the opportunity to use a so called "layout". This is a companion application that allows the mazatrol programmer to resequence his mazatrol program. So this layout controls the actual sequence of operations of the program.

So, if you have done any layout work on any given program, if you happen to edit or resequence the order in your mazatrol program, then another program layout has to be done.

Layout is invisible to most people because the process flow exactly matches the program flow, if no layout has been done, and in fact can be ignored. (Post #7 above is good info related to this concept)

layout can do stuff like force all the roughing tools to complete their work before moving on to the finish tool. It allows tweaking of built in mazatrol inefficiencies like too many redundant tool changes or turret indexes.

So if you are using a layout, (and the use is optional), if you edit and resequence the program, mazatrol will want you to update the layout. It will not do it automatically.

I hope this is constructive for you all. it is not necessarily a quirk, it is more that it is working as designed!

-90% jimmy

I just had this problem last week. What I did was I erased the end unit. When i did this it asked me if i wanted to delete the layout? say yes, and then redo your layout. If it dont ask you to delete the layout you can also copy that program to a different number. Then from the bottom of the program erase the units until you get to the units that are duplacated on the layout page. After you do this copy the units you need from the copy you made.

I believe 90% is right on with his post. Some time ago I was running a job where I was doing as he described, doing all the roughing then a complete one pass with a finish tool. Later on I added a small feature that exceeded the finish allowance and kept getting the layout error. After much frustration thinking it had to do with finish allowance, I canceled the earlier layout and did the layout process again and it work as advertised. As he pointed out, any change to the program regardless as to why, requires updating the layout process.