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Old 11-14-2009, 05:59 PM
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Default Slant Turn 40 ATC M/C ???

What kind of reputation doo these machines have?

What kind of tool change time?

Even the turning toys Cat50?


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Old 11-15-2009, 08:40 AM
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Ox,

The Slant Turns are known to be heavy, box-way powerhouses. Most came with the Mazatrol (Mitsubishi) control, although they were built with Fanuc as well.

Mazak will have any part you might need, although very pricey, and maybe located in Japan, as these were built there. Mazak still builds a ST series.

Tool change time is fairly quick, via a swing arm behind a door in the sliding Z-axis way cover. I believe the turret has to go to a fixed Z position to change tools, as the tool changer doesn't move along with the turret. So this extra Z move does add to toolchange time, of course.

The turning toys have a Mazak-unique shank, not Cat 50.

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Old 11-15-2009, 03:17 PM
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i had a mazak slant 30 and still have a qt 10 both ATC M/C
mine are/where differant than cnc describes as far as the tool change
mine were/are both a large chain carrier affair
tool change was not bad if you kept tools in order (1zy 2zy 3zy) but if you had to go from 1 to 12 it was slow as molasis cause it had to sit there and rachet by 11 pockets at about 2 seconds a pocket
that said
they did there job and could hold a butt load of tooling
something like 25 tools which is a butt load for a 3 axis lathe
there tooling was "mazak specific"
i still got a tub full of the old milling and turning holders and
i've also got most all the T3 control on the shelf from the #30
and could be persuaded to part with them cheap

the cat #50 you mention sounds more like the old multiplex (for runner to the integrex)
it had the flip flop door deal like toolcat talks of
quite similar to most horizantal and vertical mills, tool is sitting there staged and a twin arm cycles 'em out........kinda......but differant
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:49 AM
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Most came with the Mazatrol (Mitsubishi) control, although they were built with Fanuc as well.
Mazak slants is an "old model" machine... that is to say, it has been around a very, very long time. I would actually say that there are as many FANUC controled machines as there are Mazatrol. In fact, many slants continued with FANUC even after Mazatrol was introduced.

The Slant 40 is a pretty healthy machine and if in good shape, can still hold it's own with today's machines. ATC was a bit cumbersome but easy to work on IMO....
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:17 PM
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I got a bunch a spare parts from Schlumberger when they went from the Slant 40 ATC M/C to the Integrex 400 and E-machines. If any one need parts let me know what ya need and i look and see if i have it.

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