Hi everyone im new here and would love some help i have a pretty dumb question but wanted some others input on the issue. We had a project that involved checking the flatness of a slew ring about 4 metres in diameter. Our customer had been told to install hydraulic jacks equally spaced and hold it under equal pressure this was because they did not want to remove 220 tonnes of equipment that sat ontop of the chassis. We inspected it on 8 different occasions after welding and other processes. We also made them clean the surace up to almost a mirror finish. Other things that were making me not confident with our accuracy was the fact we were on brick pavers. On the end of an airport runway (vibration) and had heavy equipment cranes, trucks and forklifts all around us which caused vibration intermittently. So now you now how bad the controls were... oh wait and it was outside in the australian heat... think thats most of it.
So we were happy with its flatness when it was first inspected prior to welding then we saw twist/pulling where we expected after gauging and welding. This required the need for milling it back into spec which is 0.2mm flatness over the entire 4 meter diam. So a team was contracted to use a large climax portable mill and machine it flat... this is where it gets hard to explain. We went in and showed the machinists our numbers and where it was warped. Then we left and returned to check it after its first pass. The item was 0.4mm flatness so we said sorry you have to remachine it however they then did not trust our laser tracker because they couldnt see the 0.4mm error on theyre dial gauge (fitted to the mill and run around the surface) i explained that the dial gague wasnt the right way to check it as it is not checking 2 virtual planes in a minimum/maximum or lowest - and highest +. Suffice to say the machinist didnt agree so we checked it 12 times in different setups to prove it was 0.4 eventually we said just trust us remachine it and lets see if it gets better... it did 0.14mm flatness. So how do i explain why they cant see 0.4 on the dial gague and am i right in saying the dial gauge is not helping of mounted to a machine ( which i discovered had 0.1 of play in the tool height) on a side note the machinists are well known to be the best where i live and did great considering it was theyre first time using a climax mill and furst time machining a large slew. I cant fault theyre work i just want to be able to give them feedback so nextime they understand.
So we were happy with its flatness when it was first inspected prior to welding then we saw twist/pulling where we expected after gauging and welding. This required the need for milling it back into spec which is 0.2mm flatness over the entire 4 meter diam. So a team was contracted to use a large climax portable mill and machine it flat... this is where it gets hard to explain. We went in and showed the machinists our numbers and where it was warped. Then we left and returned to check it after its first pass. The item was 0.4mm flatness so we said sorry you have to remachine it however they then did not trust our laser tracker because they couldnt see the 0.4mm error on theyre dial gauge (fitted to the mill and run around the surface) i explained that the dial gague wasnt the right way to check it as it is not checking 2 virtual planes in a minimum/maximum or lowest - and highest +. Suffice to say the machinist didnt agree so we checked it 12 times in different setups to prove it was 0.4 eventually we said just trust us remachine it and lets see if it gets better... it did 0.14mm flatness. So how do i explain why they cant see 0.4 on the dial gague and am i right in saying the dial gauge is not helping of mounted to a machine ( which i discovered had 0.1 of play in the tool height) on a side note the machinists are well known to be the best where i live and did great considering it was theyre first time using a climax mill and furst time machining a large slew. I cant fault theyre work i just want to be able to give them feedback so nextime they understand.