Check out my new Monarch

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Tipsy

Aluminum

Joined

Nov 15, 2005

Location

Topanga CA

• Jul 15, 2006

• #1

Well here it is, just came today and it's a beast. (Very odd by the way that another thread popped up today showing a very similar lathe).

Anyway, it's purpose is to help make bring my 10ee back to life (just one small part needs work but have to a have a reason for the wife).

It's serial number is 51117, and its from 1973. There is no model number but maybe its a 62. There is a hydraulic motor at the base of the head stock, its 20hp!

It is a 20X54 but measures 22".

Came with a nice 15" Buck six jaw chuck. Also has a taper attatchement. The steady rest does not seem to fit however.

I did run it at the dealer, sounded quiet, but pretty mean with a nice hydraulic humm. When you engage spindle drive it ramps up in a second or two and sounds like a piece of heavy machinery, very impressive.

I may need to rewire, it says 460V all over it, but the dealer hooked up only three wires, seems like that means 230 three phase?

If you like it, don't feel bad, I did not find any of thoes amazeing bargans that you hear about, I paid for it.

Now I am a self declared addict. You really have to love machines to put such a thing in your garage.

Charles

 

The real Leigh

Diamond

Joined

Nov 23, 2005

Location

Maryland

• Jul 15, 2006

• #2

I may need to rewire, it says 460V all over it, but the dealer hooked up only three wires, seems like that means 230 three phase?

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Hi Charles,

Very nice! Wish I had space for a machine like that

Don't make assumptions about voltage. Any three-phase service will use three wires, regardless of the voltage supplied.

Leigh

 

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Tipsy

Aluminum

Joined

Nov 15, 2005

Location

Topanga CA

• Jul 15, 2006

• #3

Hi Leigh,

I was not sure about that, got you now though. I'll open up the motor and see how it's wired. I saved a recent post on how to rewire, hope it works.

Charles

 

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jkilroy

Diamond

Joined

Jul 23, 2004

Location

Vicksburg, MS

• Jul 15, 2006

• #4

You are going to love that lathe. Spoil you for other machines thats for sure. Congrats on the purchase. By chance could you divulge the dealer you purchased it from?

 

JRouche

Stainless

Joined

Aug 15, 2004

Location

So. Cal.

• Jul 15, 2006

• #5

Wow, now that is some beastie. I like.... Curious, which rigger did you use? JRouche

 

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Tipsy

Aluminum

Joined

Nov 15, 2005

Location

Topanga CA

• Jul 15, 2006

• #6

I bought it from Wheeler in Los Angeles, since you all want to know (and I have asked the same thing in the past) it was 11,500 had them add in a steady and a 15hp second idler for my RPC. Condition is very good, almost no appreciable wear on the ways, just some on the inner side of the front way (always happens there not sure why).

The rigger was Ortegatrucking.com rate was 175 per hour. They were very competant, was the second time I used them.

Next, I have to change out the fluids, make sure they are not too dirty I hope.

I also will order a manual from Monarch, it looks like a pretty complicated machine. I sure don't want to have to work on.

Charles

 

rke[pler

Diamond

Joined

Feb 19, 2002

Location

Peralta, NM USA

• Jul 15, 2006

• #7

Oooh - rapid traverse on the apron, cool. Also a 2 speed on the tailstock.

What's the dingus mounted on the compound?

 

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donie

Diamond

Joined

May 17, 2003

Location

Walla Walla Wine and Wild Turkey

• Jul 16, 2006

• #8

Very nice machine tipsy!

 

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Michael Moore

Titanium

Joined

Jun 4, 2004

Location

San Francisco, CA

• Jul 16, 2006

• #9

You can now say "I used to have some space in my shop".

That's a big sucker, and it sure looks like it is in nice shape. Congratulations on being able to put such a beast into your shop!

cheers,
Michael

 

matt_isserstedt

Diamond

Joined

Dec 15, 2003

Location

suburbs of Ann Arbor, MI, USA

• Jul 16, 2006

• #10

What a beast!

So very jealous....couple of questions...is the load meter next to the spindle a HP meter or % of max?

Also, it looks like you have the motor and back gearbox apart on your EE, is a VFD conversion in the works?

So now you have the best of both worlds, a Monarch to rapidly rough your stock close to dimension, and an EE to put on the finishing touches! Classy....

 

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Tipsy

Aluminum

Joined

Nov 15, 2005

Location

Topanga CA

• Jul 17, 2006

• #11

Yes the meter is for 0 to 150% of max, not Hp, I guess very usefull if your needing to make money with the machine.

The 10ee is indeed getting some adjustments made to its VFD and back gear combination. If they just could have made the sliding gear in the box supported by it's own shaft or a bearing for allignment, conversion would be a so much simpler. Thoes who have tried it know exactly what I mean.

The "dingus" on the compound is an oddity, I took some pictures so show, it is curious at least. To be honest it is made with castings that are a little rough so it turns me off a bit. I bought an ebay Dovetail Tool Mfg. Co, USA, DA size Aloris copy? It will be the replacement. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190001276437&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

Here are some pics of the dingus:

Much Thanks to Russ Kepler for his help with a manual, I am pretty sure it is a model 62, or a dynashift version of the maybe more well known 612, I was surprised to see that its max spindle speed is so high for it's size 1750rpm.

Here is the main 20hp motor scarry, but good

Charles

 

matt_isserstedt

Diamond

Joined

Dec 15, 2003

Location

suburbs of Ann Arbor, MI, USA

• Jul 17, 2006

• #12

Tipsy, for what it's worth, I'm in the middle of a back-gear conversion like you mention.

My tactic is this...use the large 1-1/4" ID bearing at the rear of the case to support the input shaft.

I bought a needle-bearing with it's own separate hardened inner-race "ring". This needle bearing presses to the ID of the hollow "output shaft" of the gearbox. So I will turn my 1-1/4" shaft down to have a short pilot that the "ring" presses onto. This will support the sliding gear, rather than being cantilevered from the rear only.

I think there will be enough beef there on the smaller pilot end to keep things going....my SWAG is that the double-supported version will be acceptable.

One consideration is end-thrust, there should be very little in my thinking with the spur-gear setup...considering just using snap-rings and the ball-bearing at the rear.

My motor will couple to the new gearbox "input shaft" with a spider/jaw coupling, similar to a stationary pump, where each component can be individually removed.

My only regret is the motor I have is a C-face motor...but with the addition of the CK, I should be able to bore a heavy plate to dimension for piloting/aligning the C-face.

I can take some pics if that would help...you may be too far committed at this point.

 

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Canyonman

Hot Rolled

Joined

Dec 28, 2004

Location

Oklahoma

• Jul 17, 2006

• #13

Holy Honkin Mamma!!!

Great looking machine, <green with tool porn envy> Great gloat though!!!!

Congratulations!!!!!

If I keep hoping maybe I can join you with one of those monsters one day! Turn a 1:1 scale Parrott and an Ordinance Rifle.

Take Care, Ken

 

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jlegge

Stainless

Joined

Oct 7, 2004

Location

Grayslake, IL

• Jul 17, 2006

• #14

You do have a Series 62 model 2013. Be sure to get a manual from Monarch Lathe. The manual will have a trouble shooting section and they will send you all the assembly drawings showing your lathe. They dynashift headstock hydrualics are complex so be sure they send you all the trouble shooting infomation they have on a Series 62

This is a serious production lathe built to make the owner serious money!

Have fun with your new toy, and respect the power driving that spindle.

John

 

j king

Stainless

Joined

Oct 27, 2003

Location

ohio

• Jul 17, 2006

• #15

What a home shop machine. That out to spray chips all over everything in the garage.
A friend has one that looks to be about the same.Heck of a machine they are.Enjoy.

 

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Tipsy

Aluminum

Joined

Nov 15, 2005

Location

Topanga CA

• Jul 19, 2006

• #16

Hi Matt,

Your offer to take pictures of your idea for the 10ee backgear/motor conversion would be well recieved around here I think. It sounds like your idea is a novel one compared to the ideas posted here in the past. It really is the achillis tendon of the 10ee (not counting the electronics difficulties) which is a shame becuase I think there are a lot of 10ees sitting aroud not running for this reason. AND I cant quite picture it myself

Charles

 

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Glug

Hot Rolled

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Location

Midwest

• Dec 10, 2017

• #17

I stumbled upon this thread while looking for info and decided to make the PB photo links work - at least temporarily. We still really need access to re-host these photos for a permanent fix.

I wonder how this machine is working for the OP?

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