How long is a string??

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Butch Lambert

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• Jun 17, 2017

• #1

I have a 1956 WIAD 10EE. I think I have all the parts for the collet closer except the draw bar. How would I determine the length that I need?
No markings on any of my collet closer parts, I'm sure it is a Monarch.

 

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atomarc

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• Jun 18, 2017

• #2

From one end to the other!

Stuart

 

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220swift

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• Jun 18, 2017

• #3

Butch is this for the lever style collet closer ?

Hal

 

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Butch Lambert

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• Jun 18, 2017

• #4

Hello Hal,
Yes it is a lever type.
Kalifornia Kid, just the kind of response that I expected from the furin west.

 

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220swift

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• Jun 18, 2017

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Butch

I could measure mine but I'm not sure it would help. Mine is the hand wheel type.

Hal

 

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Peter.

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• Jun 18, 2017

• #6

Make a dummy bar, thread it into a collet, pull it up tight and mark the end flush with the rear of the spindle. Now you know the collet-spindle end distance you can do all your working out from there.

 

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Butch Lambert

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• Jun 18, 2017

• #7

Thanks Hal and Peter.

 

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220swift

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• Jun 18, 2017

• #8

Butch

I measured my 10EE hand wheel style collet draw bar.

24 7/16" from the front of the tube to the fiber thrust washer in front of the hand wheel, that bumps up against the left end of the lathe spindle.

The tube is 26 15/16" over all length.

Hal

 

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atomarc

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• Jun 18, 2017

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Butch Lambert said:

Hello Hal,
Yes it is a lever type.
Kalifornia Kid, just the kind of response that I expected from the furin west.

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Well....hell! It was sort of a goofy threat title from the fellow in Poetry, TX don't ya think! Can't believe Mr.Milacron hasn't swooped down and closed it.

How about this..."twice the distance from the middle to one end". That's as good as this 71 year old Kalifornia Kid can come up with.

Stuart

 

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Cal Haines

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Tucson, AZ

• Jun 18, 2017

• #10

Butch,

Monarch installed at least two different types of collet closers and some machines were fitted with after-market closers. Please post a photo of your closer so we can see what you have.

Cal

 

WILLEO6709

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WAPELLO, IA USA

• Jun 18, 2017

• #11

Monarch did in fact have different variations... I have 2 lever closer machines that are different, yet have the same monarch signature " z lever ". In general the aftermarket closers tend to be straight arms from what I have seen. In your situation I would measure and start long, thread extra deep and keep shaving length back until it works.